Re: XEmacs 21.4.5 'Civil Service' is released.

Andy Piper writes: The idea of a netinstaller is nice. Unfortunately, to really work well the download process has to be an absolute rock. Since XEmacs isn't a microsoft product, and nobody is paying for huge gobs of bandwidth from conxion or akamai or anybody else to provide excellent accessibility, the net installer tends to fall flat on its face. First it starts by giving me a list of 50 places to do the download from. I have *no* idea which of them are topologically close to me, likely to offer a fast download, etc. So I get out a ping tool and hunt around see what it looks like I've got a good connection to. Then I bravely tell the netinstaller the site I've chosen. It then grinds for a little before presenting me with a list of packages. I can't tell if "all" is selected by default, but I guess that it is. There's no "Select All" button, so I hit "next" and proceed. The netinstaller then throws up a dialog box informing me it can't find a package (ada support I think). So I hit the "okay" button. Then it tells me it can't find another package (auctex I think), so I hit the okay button. And this continues, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Given this irritation, I'd like to make a request. All I want to be able to do is connect to a site (or one of 50 sites, whatever) with either http or ftp, and download a single big honking file (probably 30MB or thereabouts) which is a self-contained installer for *everything*. I can spare the extra 20MB of disk space for the features I'll never use or even know exist. And this would eliminate the netinstaller which, at least for me, has thus far never worked. After all that ranting, I'd like to say that XEmacs is tremendous, and I'm extremely thankful that people care enough to make the large effort so that it runs natively on windows. Thanks, -Matthew -- Matthew Eldridge, 408/453-8726 x206