Re: That "vision" thang...

Stephen> I don't understand why you think we need to wait. Well, I just think that going GPLv3 is a rather big transition mentally so it would be nice to have that in a new version so that it would stick out. I also think that we should strive at a faster release schedule ... you know Release Early, Release Often. So in my mind these two go hand in hand. By getting 21.5 out fast we actually doesn't have to wait long since GPLv3 is the next step after that. ;-) If a release of 21.5 is considered a bad idea but going GPLv3 is accepted I'd start immediately with it of course. Stephen> [...] Stephen> The reason that GTK or wxWindows really doesn't help that Stephen> much is that in order to do things like faces, invisible Stephen> text, wrapping or truncation of lines, etc, we need to handle Stephen> text redisplay ourselves. I'm thinking more of menus, dialogs, toolbars, icons, layout managers etc but I confess that I haven't given it much thought and I have definitely no knowledge to back it up! The idea comes from the applications that do work on multiple platforms, obvious examples are the numerous java applications, and an assumption that they were easier to get going on all supported platforms. Stephen> I believe it's in conflict with the basic architecture of Stephen> *any* Emacs- like editor. Well, then it was a bad idea and we can simply drop it. Stephen> Well, five of my candidates are Stephen> 1. straightfoward configuration of Xft fonts from resources or Lisp Stephen> (unification to Lisp only can come later; we really should provide Stephen> an X-resource-file-to-Lisp translator), Stephen> 2. general improvement of face and other customization, Stephen> 3. Xft font turds, Stephen> 4. fix window configuration management (VM at least suffers horribly), and Stephen> 5. SUMO-in-source distribution (at least a simple version). How would you order these if you take going GPLv3 and general GNU-Emacs sync in consideration? Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta