>>>> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull
<turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes:
>>>>> "mb" == Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes:
>>>> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull
<turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes:
SJT> The poor selection of kanji fonts occurs with several 21.0
SJT> betas (Norwegian and Poitou at least).
mb> Does it work to set the fonts in Lisp?
mb> (set-face-font 'default
SJT> OK, this works (with fonts that I actually have, of course).
SJT> Um, where did the mule-fonts tag go? Doesn't it matter?
The tag is just a method to allow you to manipulate multiple fonts as
a set. Personally specified fonts should probably not use a tag.
mb> If so, it is merely a matter of convenience and documentation
mb> that the same functionality is not accessible via X resources.
SJT> X resources are not the point; you and I can work with them or around
SJT> them.
SJT> The issue is that on my system, at least, any attempt to alter _any_
SJT> faces, font or size of any charset, via the Options menu results in
SJT> completely unusable kanji fonts. These cannot be changed _at all_
SJT> outside of Lisp AFAIK, short of restarting XEmacs.
SJT> That is not acceptable to ordinary users, and thus a showstopper IMO.
SJT> Don't release a Mule XEmacs in this state, please.
XEmacs has been in this state for a while. The whole font problem in
XEmacs is really tough to fix, and should not be fixed for 21.0.
SJT> Also, the fact that the initialization code produces completely
SJT> different results from the normal operation code bothers me; I'm not
SJT> sufficiently well-informed to know whether it's something that must
SJT> (or even can) be fixed or not. But I don't like it.
Code contributions are always welcome. Maybe some design work can be
snarfed from other operating systems or applications.
Martin