Re: include SUMO? (was: My XEmacs can't find its packages)
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 06:37:26PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
I think it is very unlikely that the SUMO will be *included* in the
source distribution. Among other things, even if we default to
--with-mule, as recently suggested, many users will not want the Mule
SUMO. So, instead a few facilities needed for bootstrapping will be
included, enough to reliably download and install the SUMO(s) upon
request.
it would be very convenient if there were always a very up to date sumo
tarball on the server, or maybe I have missed that?
The problem in the past has been a lack of reliable transport. FTP
is
unreliable because many hosts (including but not limited to
ftp.xemacs.org) seem to be unable to configure their FTP servers
reliably, while XEmacs itself does not have an efficient, reliable
HTTP client, and the package system itself sort of assumes it can use
EFS to fetch packages. w3.el and url.el have not been all that great.
add firewalls etc to the ftp issues.
And while builtin package management is nice the current state of things
makes it unnecessary hard to build packages installable by distro tools
such as rpm and apt. A sumo tarball that is intended to work with a particular
xemacs release would help a lot.
Richard
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