Speed kills -- 21.5 users will live a very long life.

A simple comparison: XEmacs 21.4.14 (latest CVS + my PUI enhancements) time xemacs -kill real 0m29.846s user 0m21.567s sys 0m1.287s XEmacs 21.5.15 (latest CVS) time ./xemacs -kill real 2m19.488s user 0m55.854s sys 0m2.759s That's pretty horrible. The 21.4 was configured with: ./configure \ '--extra-verbose' '--site-prefixes=/usr/local/pgsql:/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.1' \ '--dynamic=yes' \ '--with-gtk=no' \ '--with-gnome=no' \ '--with-toolbars' \ '--with-wmcommand' \ '--with-athena=next' \ '--with-menubars=lucid' \ '--with-scrollbars=athena' \ '--with-dialogs=athena' \ '--with-widgets=athena' \ '--with-gif' \ '--with-sound=native,noesd' \ '--with-site-lisp=no' \ '--with-site-modules' \ '--pdump' \ '--with-mule' \ '--with-xfs' \ '--error-checking=none' \ '--with-clash-detection' \ '--cflags=-s -O3 -Wall -march=k6 -malign-double \ -fomit-frame-pointer \ -funroll-loops \ -fexpensive-optimizations \ -fschedule-insns2 \ -D__NO_STRING_INLINES \ -D__NO_MATH_INLINES' The 21.5 was configured with: ../src/configure \ '--srcdir=../src' \ '--extra-verbose' \ '--site-prefixes=/usr/local/pgsql:/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.1' \ '--dynamic=yes' \ '--with-athena=next' \ '--with-menubars=lucid' \ '--with-scrollbars=athena' \ '--with-dialogs=athena' \ '--with-widgets=athena' \ '--with-site-lisp=no' \ '--with-site-modules' \ '--with-mule' \ '--with-xfs' \ '--debug=no' \ '--error-checking=none' \ '--with-clash-detection' \ '--external-widget' \ '--cflags=-O3 -pipe -march=k6 -malign-double \ -fomit-frame-pointer \ -funroll-loops \ -fexpensive-optimizations \ -fschedule-insns2 \ -D__NO_STRING_INLINES \ -D__NO_MATH_INLINES' \ '--use-kkcc' Yes there are a couple of differences in the two configurations, but nothing that could account for such a massive slow down. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: A94B3003>---| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |------------------------------&lt;sryoungs(a)bigpond.net.au&gt;---|