Re: package system: questions, suggestions, alien

|--==> "VS" == Ville Skytt <Ville> writes: VS> ...and if I've understood correctly, the Sumos shouldn't really exist Even though they are a pain for me [1] I wouldn't ever stop releasing them. They give new users an easy way to get hold of all of the packages they are ever likely to need. Remember too, that most of these type of users aren't familiar with pui yet. VS> I think that a big Sumo tarball gives VS> users/admins/distro-makers/those-who-don't-use-pui a strong hint like VS> "These packages have been tested to interoperate well, install this and VS> don't worry about the dependencies." It is supposed to convey: "...so you want to get a complete set of packages? Download this monster Sumo tarball..." VS> IMHO, this kind of limits the power of the package system. I don't see how. Can you elaborate? VS> I also think that a more comprehensive and more enforced dependency VS> system could have a positive effect on this; still assuming that Sumos VS> are not considered a good thing. But they (Sumos) are a good thing. And besides, dependency related problems reported to xemacs-beta or c.e.x are *VERY* rare [2]. I think we would be better off fixing the package bootstrap problem. What I'm talking about here is the problem of having to install some packages manually before you can use the package system. Footnotes: [1] Uploading 50+ Mb over a 56K dialup takes a bloody long time. [2] I don't think I have *ever* seen one. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 10D5C9C5>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---|