Re: Fwd: sign off on XEmacs 21.5
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
David Kastrup writes:
[Context:]
>>Once again, we can see a complete failure of communication. I
was not
>>aware at all that such efforts were being made, until you presented us
>>with your "package", years after Nix did his work.
> > This led directly to a lot of acrimony and frustration
that was
> > certainly avoidable.
>
> Oh come on. Our "package" filled a void that had been open for years.
> The alternative would have been to let XEmacs users be locked out for
> another few years from getting updates of the package. If it is
> acrimonous and frustrating that somebody pitches in to make things work
> for the user, you have to adjust your priorities.
Stop trolling, David. Of course it's not acrimonious and frustrating
that you provided users with a solution.
Fine. So do tell what "acrimony" and "frustration" was caused by our
"package" surprisingly popping up years after somebody bothered updating
the XEmacs package in Sumo.
What you are saying is that several more unacrimonious and unfrustrating
years could have passed without XEmacs users having an option for using
an uptodate AUCTeX. Or using preview-latex at all. We supported XEmacs
on preview-latex since 2002. There still is no preview-latex available
as an official XEmacs package.
So if we had spared you the acrimony and frustration of an unofficial
XEmacs "package", XEmacs users would have been spared 6 years of being
able to install preview-latex.
It is my persuasion that the XEmacs project priorities are utterly
messed up if that's what you find desirable.
Even if the target were to shut down XEmacs development gracefully, this
approach fails on the "graceful" angle if nothing else. Which may
entirely be my fault since I am too stupid to understand what is going
on. I still don't get it.
And my self-confidence depends enough on my intelligence that I am not
pleasant company when I feel like a complete idiot missing the obvious.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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