Re: XEmacs 21.4.5 'Civil Service' is released.

Hi Matthew! Matthew> Andy Piper writes: Matthew> The idea of a netinstaller is nice. Unfortunately, to Matthew> really work well the download process has to be an Matthew> absolute rock. Since XEmacs isn't a microsoft product, Matthew> and nobody is paying for huge gobs of bandwidth from Matthew> conxion or akamai or anybody else to provide excellent Matthew> accessibility, the net installer tends to fall flat on Matthew> its face. People on xemacs-beta: Please report successful installations via netinstaller. It has worked nicely for me a while ago. Matthew> First it starts by giving me a list of 50 places to do Matthew> the download from. I have *no* idea which of them are Matthew> topologically close to me, likely to offer a fast Matthew> download, etc. So I get out a ping tool and hunt around Matthew> see what it looks like I've got a good connection to. Matthew> Then I bravely tell the netinstaller the site I've Matthew> chosen. Matthew> It then grinds for a little before presenting me with a Matthew> list of packages. I can't tell if "all" is selected by Matthew> default, but I guess that it is. There's no "Select All" Matthew> button, so I hit "next" and proceed. Matthew> The netinstaller then throws up a dialog box informing me Matthew> it can't find a package (ada support I think). So I hit Matthew> the "okay" button. Then it tells me it can't find Matthew> another package (auctex I think), so I hit the okay Matthew> button. And this continues, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. What's the site you have chosen? Matthew> Given this irritation, I'd like to make a request. All I Matthew> want to be able to do is connect to a site (or one of 50 Matthew> sites, whatever) with either http or ftp, and download a Matthew> single big honking file (probably 30MB or thereabouts) Matthew> which is a self-contained installer for *everything*. I Matthew> can spare the extra 20MB of disk space for the features Matthew> I'll never use or even know exist. And this would Matthew> eliminate the netinstaller which, at least for me, has Matthew> thus far never worked. How often/when has you tried? Matthew> After all that ranting, I'd like to say that XEmacs is Matthew> tremendous, and I'm extremely thankful that people care Matthew> enough to make the large effort so that it runs natively Matthew> on windows. We depend heavily on detailed technical feedback. That's the way you "pay" for your XEmacs. Best regards, Adrian Matthew> Thanks, Matthew> -Matthew Matthew> -- Matthew> Matthew Eldridge, 408/453-8726 x206 -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/