Re: Mule autodetection is crap
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Admittedly, this has pretty much the same effect on users as
"not
caring." But nobody has claimed that 21.5 is "suitable for daily use"
yet, let alone promised support. For many purposes it's fine for
daily use; several of the developers use it pretty much exclusively.
For you, it's not. I'm sorry about that---I'd like to see all of the
features being developed at about five times the current rate, and
most especially Mule, which I use heavily---but I don't see what
you're "pissed off" about.
I wouldn't care if there was a clear statement "Sorry, I'm busy with X
and it will take until about Y to get ready with it", or "It makes more
sense to wait until Z is done as it may change stuff in the area where
the bug / missing feature is" but getting practically no reaction
destroys motivation for further bug reports and pisses me off.
Frank> Katsumi Yamaoka reports several times that 2.5 is
Frank> absolutely broken and unusable for Japanese users, no
Frank> reaction.
That's an exaggeration. It may be unusable for Katsumi and similar
users, but I don't find it unusable, and I do use Japanese on a daily
basis with 21.5. It's clear from patch submissions that there are
other Japanese users actively working with XEmacs 21.5.
This might be true, but still he got no answer to his posts. At least
none which was CC'ed to xemacs-beta.
Frank> Well, Gnu Emacs can now display images under MS Windows
and
Frank> works generally faster and more stable, so I'll probably
Frank> switch over Christmas.
If GNU's image support is sufficient for you, please do use it. I
think I speak for all the developers when I say that we really
appreciate your bug reports, and we plan to address them in
appropriate sequence with other work. And I hope that you will check
out XEmacs 21.5 again in, say, mid-March, by which time I expect
another wave of Mule work to have been committed. But you should use
the tool that gets the job done for you.
The only image rendering support I need are X-Faces. Emacs is for me 70%
Gnus, 10% AucTeX, 10% IDE for java and other programming languages and
10% general editor. XEmacs is the editor I'm used to and which isn't
steered by RMS but FSF Emacs is better for me for Gnus and TeX because
developers of those packages mainly use FSF Emacs and FSF's Mule is
better.
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One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.