steve, from what i gather, the people who use M-k are all experienced users, and
can trivially find where kill-sentence has moved and change my M-shift-K binding
to M-k. novices, on the other hand, are never going to be aware of any
kill-whole-line functionality unless it's in an obvious location. if a change
like this is well announced and documented, it should cause hardly any pain.
imho we have to put a limit on the amount of contortions we're going to make to
avoid changing any existing key bindings.
it is late, though, and you have a point.
a third alternative would be:
remove kill-whole-line = always
remove historical-kill-line
create kill-whole-line function, not bound to any keys.
sample.init.el binds it to M-k and moves kill-sentence to M-K [shift k].
PROVIDED THAT
we go ahead and do the movement suggested in sample.init.el in the next
development branch.
that way, there will be time for people to get used to the bindings, and propose
alternative solutions. [provided that the solutions take everything into
account, not just a Kyle-type "don't you dare change that binding because i like
it where it is and don't want it moved" type of curmudgeonly response.]
sound good?
"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:
I think we've seen enough anti to insist that the two main bindings
(C-k and M-k) not change in the release.
I strongly encourage somebody to put it in sample.emacs for the
release.
>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew O Persico <persicom(a)acedsl.com>
writes:
Matthew> Seems natural to me. Why change it?
Because the other way seems natural to other people, obviously.
I don't think there's any way to see which is better except to try
it. That's not good enough for the upcoming release, but I will
support trying it for a while in the devel series.
I think we should do more messing with the UI early in the devel
series. This has two positive effects, IMHO. (1) People are forced
to try things that seem unnatural to them. Note that the only person
who has actually tried the experiment decided he likes
"kill-whole-line = always"! (2) People who still hate all the changes
will have an incentive to develop the keyboard customize interface
we've been talking about for years.
Bu-wha-ha-ha-ha!
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