Yeah! Using instructions missing from the README, xemacs installed! (was Re: How can xemacs have been made so hard to install? Do the developers have any clue it is needlessly hard/undocumented?)

If you guys could put the contents of Jan's simple instructions in the README, boy, it would be nice.... I know people (serious programmers short on time) who simply gave up on installing xemacs.... The lack of instructions on where things get untarred were much worse than the number of tarballs, but I still think you should also offer an xemacs-everything.tgz Hans Jan Vroonhof wrote: Without documentation of it, a feature does not exist. It does no good for me to not need the files if I am not told this. But actually, it was not the number of tarballs but the lack of instruction on where they go that stopped me. It is NOT obvious where sumo goes. Thanks. Why don't you guys put the contents of this on the web page where it will be seen before downloading. Note that when I read it I am not sure if I need the info and elc files to get everything or if they will merely shorten my compile time. You could make this clear, such that someone can quickly determine what to download if they want everything, and what to type to make it build. I did use Sumo. That left me having to download 5 tar balls, and having no instructions on what goes where (It has no README saying where it goes), and having to type something more complicated than "tar xfvz xemacs-everything.tgz; cd xemacs; ./configure; make; make install". Why? Why not just have one tarball for people like me, and then those of you with more time than RAM and disk can spend days picking and choosing to your heart's content? Nit: The web page says the current version is 21.1, but it looks like it is 21.1.4 to me.... Wouldn't it be better to either not say, or say in full, the name of the current version? What happened to that signatures index package? Did you guys take it off the site, or did I just forget where I saw it? Ok, so now I tried this set of commands [root＠localhost src]# \rm -r xemacs-21.1.4/ [root＠localhost src]# tar xfz old/xemacs-21.1.4.tar.gz [root＠localhost src]# tar xfz old/xemacs-21.1.4-info.tar.gz [root＠localhost src]# tar xfz old/xemacs-21.1.4-elc.tar.gz [root＠localhost src]# cd xemacs-21.1.4 [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# \rm -r /usr/local/lib here I ran ./configure, it asked for XPM, I installed XPM from your website, then I continued [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# ./configure [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# make Producing `src/Emacs.ad.h' from `etc/Emacs.ad'. Resetting `src/puresize-adjust.h'. Resetting `src/sheap-adjust.h'. cd ./lib-src && make CC='gcc' CFLAGS='-g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch' LDFLAGS='' CPPFLAGS='' all make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/xemacs-21.1.4/lib-src' gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Demacs -I../src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H /usr/src/xemacs-21.1.4/lib-src/make-path.c -o make-path In file included from /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25, from /usr/include/errno.h:36, from /usr/src/xemacs-21.1.4/lib-src/make-path.c:36: /usr/include/linux/errno.h:4: asm/errno.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [make-path] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xemacs-21.1.4/lib-src' make: *** [lib-src] Error 2 If you guys aspire to configuration perfection, may I suggest you teach configure to look for asm in /usr/src/linux and warn about it? So I created a link from /usr/src/linux to a working kernel, and continued (asm is in the kernel source).... [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# make clean [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# make boy, you guys sure ought to clean up a lot of warnings, you know, just so you'll notice if there is a warning that is significant.... but it worked. Then I did: [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# make install [root＠localhost xemacs-21.1.4]# cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs [root＠localhost xemacs]# tar xfvz /usr/src/old/xemacs-sumo.tar.gz and everything seems to work. Yeah! I love vm, and compiling my code using xemacs, and.... Thanks much, Hans PS I didn't get a chance to try out this script Eric sent me, but thanks for sending the script. Maybe the developers of xemacs might take a look at it. #!/bin/csh -fx # # xemacs.csh # # Auto Configure, Make & Install for XEmacs # Written by Eric Veum <sysv(a)yahoo.com&gt; # # Comments/Usage: # An automatic recompilation system for XEmacs. Insert all # the listed packages and this shell script as # # Partitioned XEmacs System # # $prefix/src/{xemacs.csh,*.tar.gz} Archive Source Location # /{bin,man,lib} Installation Location # # Additional File Requirements: # texinfo-3.12.tar.gz # TeXInfo (makeinfo reqired by XEmacs compiliation) # jpeg-6b.tar.gz # JPEG (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) # zlib-1.1.3.tar.gz # ZLib (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) # libpng-1.0.3.tar.gz # LibPNG (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) # xpm-3.4k.tar.gz # XPM (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) # tiff-3.4.tar.gz # TIFF Library (Optional Library Used in Compile Only) # xemacs-21.1.4.tar.gz # XEmacs (Installable Package) # xemacs-sumo.tar.gz # XEmacs Sumo (Installable ELisp Component) # ispell-3.1.20.tar.gz # ISpell (Optional Installable Package) # # Running this script will automatically compile any optional # library packages statically required for linking, as well as # perform a temporary install of any compilation dependent # packages required for compilation. # # Archive Source Prefix Independent of Calling Prefix set prog = $0 if( $prog:h == $prog ) then set arcsrcprefix = $cwd # In Archive Source Already else set arcsrcprefix = $prog:h # Not in Archive Source endif # Goto Archive Source Prefix pushd $arcsrcprefix > /dev/null # Installation Prefix (Parent of Archive Source Prefix) set prefix = $arcsrcprefix:h # Dependent Packages Location # (Temporary Installation Only during Compile) set tmpprefix = $prefix/tmp # XEmacs build Dependent Packages set srctexi = texinfo-3.12 # TeXInfo (makeinfo reqired by XEmacs compiliation) # XEmacs Optional Packages set srcjpg = jpeg-6b # JPEG (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) set srczlib = zlib-1.1.3 # ZLib (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) set srcpng = libpng-1.0.3 # LibPNG (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) set srcxpm = xpm-3.4k # XPM (Optional Static Library Used in Compile Only) set srctiff = tiff-3.4 # TIFF Library (Optional Library Used in Compile Only) set srcxemacs = xemacs-21.1.4 # XEmacs (Installable Package) set srcsumo = xemacs-sumo # XEmacs Sumo (Installable Component) set srcispell = ispell-3.1.20 # ISpell (Optional Installable Package) # Optional Configure Flags For XEmacs set xeflags = '--cflags=-O --with-tooltalk=no --with-sparcworks=no --with-workshop=no --with-sound=no --with-site-lisp' set siteprefixes = ${prefix}/src/${srcjpg}:${prefix}/src/${srczlib}:${prefix}/src/${srcpng}:${prefix}/src/${srcxpm}:${prefix}/src/${srctiff} # Extract, Compile TeXInfo set src = $srctexi # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory configure --prefix=$tmpprefix # Configure make # Make make install # Install popd > /dev/null # Add Build Dependents to Path set path = ( $prefix/tmp/bin $path ); rehash # Extract, Compile JPEG set src = $srcjpg # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory configure # Configure make # Compile if ( ! -e include ) then ln -s . include # Dummy Install on Itself endif mkdir -p lib ; mv libjpeg.a lib/libjpeg.a popd > /dev/null # Return to Storage Dir # Extract, Compile ZLIB set src = $srczlib # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory configure # Configure make # Compile if ( ! -e include ) then ln -s . include # Dummy Install on Itself endif mkdir -p lib ; mv libz.a lib/libz.a popd > /dev/null # Return to Storage Dir # Extract, Compile PNGLIB, Needs ZLIB Headers set src = $srcpng # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory cp scripts/makefile.std ./Makefile # Create Makefile make "CFLAGS = -O -I../$srczlib/include" libpng.a # Compile if ( ! -e include ) then ln -s . include # Dummy Install on Itself endif mkdir -p lib ; mv libpng.a lib/libpng.a popd > /dev/null # Return to Storage Dir # Extract, Compile Xpm set src = $srcxpm # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory xmkmf ; make Makefiles # Create Makefiles make includes ; make depend ; make # Compile # Eliminate Shared Object Library, and Create Static Library rm lib/libXpm.so* ; cd lib ; ar -rv libXpm.a *.o ; cd .. # Create Standard Setup for Headers mkdir -p include/X11 ; cp lib/xpm.h include/X11/xpm.h popd > /dev/null # Extract, Compile LIBTIFF set src = $srctiff # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory configure --noninteractive # Configure make # Compile if ( ! -e include ) then ln -s libtiff include # Dummy Install on Itself endif mkdir -p lib ; mv libtiff/libtiff.a lib/libtiff.a popd > /dev/null # Return to Storage Dir # Extract, Compile XEmacs set src = $srcxemacs # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory # Configure configure --prefix=$prefix $xeflags --site-prefixes=$siteprefixes make # Compile make install # Install popd > /dev/null # Return to Storage Dir # Extract, Install LISP Packages set src = $srcsumo # PACKAGE w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract mkdir -p $prefix/lib/xemacs rm -rf $prefix/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages # Remove Older Version so no overwrite as /xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages mv xemacs-packages $prefix/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages # Extract, Compile Ispell set src = $srcispell # Source Code w/o Tar.gz/Z Extension gunzip -f -c $src.tar.gz | tar -xvpf - # Extract pushd $src > /dev/null # Goto Src Directory # Create SVS-V local.h with Installation $prefix sed "s＠PREFIX＠$prefix＠g" ../local.template.h > local.h make # Compile mkdir -p $prefix/man/man1 ; mkdir -p $prefix/man/man4 make install popd > /dev/null # Return to Storage Dir ## Clean Out All Sources & Temporary Dependent Packages rm -rf $tmpprefix ; rm -rf $srctexi rm -rf $srcjpg rm -rf $srczlib rm -rf $srcpng rm -rf $srcxpm rm -rf $srctiff rm -rf $srcxemacs rm -rf $srcsumo rm -rf $srcispell # End: Return to Original Calling Directory popd > /dev/null === US-Mail: Eric Veum, P.O. 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