Beautiful. Lights are going on.
Thank you for that explanation.
Steve
On 10/18/2011 12:19 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
smitchel writes:
> > (Info-goto-node "(lispref)Packaging")
> Thank you. That does help. I still have some doubt about parts of it.
Good. Having doubts is expected (unfortunately, that's life! of
course, it's not intended but we're all imperfect...).
> > Note that if you're going to contribute the package to XEmacs it must
> > build in the context of our package tree. There is no provision for
> > standalone builds of packages just from Lisp libraries, and none for
> > uploads of tarballs etc.
> I can't see how it would be possible to make a build just from lisp
> code--are you making the point that it must have documentation, a
> manifest, etc in addition to lisp code?
No. Of course, documentation is expected as part of general quality
assurance.
However, the official distribution is done by the volunteer Package
Release Engineer (currently Norbert Koch, aka "viteno"), not by
individual package maintainers.
The generic process is:
1. you create content (code, documentation, auxiliary data such as images)
2. you commit your new and updated content to the official repository
3. Norbert builds and releases a preview package (usually within 24 hours)
4. testers comment
5. if needed, you and other developers fix bugs and addresses RFEs; goto 2
6. Norbert moves the preview to the main download archive (typically
a month or two I think)
7. eventually Norbert builds and releases a new "SUMO" tarball.
Administrative steps required of you (one time per developer):
1. Get a bitbucket account at
bitbucket.com
2. Upload an SSH key to your bitbucket account
3. Inform mike(a)xemacs.org of your *account name* at bitbucket
(eventually that will be xemacs-services(a)xemacs.org, but right now
Mike is the only one with the know-how).
Administrative steps required of you (one time per package):
1. Request authorization for packages you want to contribute to (this
is purely a formality for most packages, especially if you
contribute a brand new library, but many existing packages have
"external maintainers" and we check with them first).
> And, just so I am understanding right, "none for uploads of tarballs"
is
> referring to a tarball that contains lisp code only, or a tarball that
> does not conform to how the package system wants them?
No, that means "no uploads of tarballs". The only way to add content
to the official XEmacs package distribution is by committing it to the
repository.
You are of course allowed to maintain and distribute tarballs
yourself, but if you call them "XEmacs packages" then the tarball must
have the following content:
1. all entry-points to Lisp code must be in libraries in lisp/$PKG/,
and all Lisp code should be located under that directory
2. the auto-autoloads.el and custom-load.el files must be present
3. all libraries normally used in your package (including optional
ones) should be present in both source and byte-compiled form
(including auto-autoloads and custom-load); the exceptions are
things like example sources that you don't support but provide
as-is
4. all prebuilt Info manuals should be in info/ (not info/$PKG)
5. all scripts etc which are not Emacs Lisp should be in lib-src/ (not
lib-src/$PKG); providing binary executables is allowed but not
recommended -- instead you should currently negotiate to get their
sources into the XEmacs core since packages don't provide a way to
compile per platform
6. all other data should be in etc/$PKG/, which you can organize as
you like
7. there must be a pkginfo/MANIFEST.$PKG file, which contains a list
of all files (including itself!) your package installs into the
tree. (Ie, uninstalling $PKG is done by "cat pkginfo/MANIFEST.$PKG
| xargs rm -f".)
> The info page I got to from the link above says a package is a
> tarball, with restrictions on how it is made:
Yes, that's true, but for the official distribution, *we* make the
tarballs. Like Debian, we insist on building those from source
checked into our package repository.
You *can* build XEmacs packages for separate distribution yourself,
but since most libraries require code from other packages, it's
easiest to get consistent results by building in the XEmacs package
source tree checked out from bitbucket, using the build
infrastructure.
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