|--==> "JM" == Jeff Mincy <jeff(a)delphioutpost.com> writes:
  JM> On Wed, 06 Mar 2002, youngs(a)xemacs.org wrote:
>And I think it would be better to "hide" these packages
completely,
>rather than just make them look like they're deleted.  This wouldn't
>be too hard to do, just use the 'invisible' extent property. 
  JM> I tried using the invisible extent property.
  JM>   (if (eq (car (cdr disp)) 'invisible)
  JM>       (set-extent-property extent 'invisible t)
  JM>       ...)
  JM> I got a blank line where each of the mule packages were.
  JM> I got:
  JM>   edebug          1.14  An Emacs Lisp debugger.
  JM>   ediff           1.37  Interface over GNU patch.
  JM> I don't particularly like blank line look, so then I figured out
  JM> that the newline character at the end isn't in the extent.
  JM>    (setq e (progn
  JM>              (forward-line -1)
  JM> 	     (end-of-line) 
  JM>              (forward-char-command 1) ;;<<<
  JM>              (point)))
  JM> Ok, so no blank lines now.  I don't think that change breaks anything.
Cool.
  JM> Then doing 
  JM>   (setq buffer-invisibility-spec (not buffer-invisibility-spec))
  JM> Causes the boring invisible lines to become visible.
  JM> Which is kind of cool.  Maybe that can go on the 'b' key
Sounds good.  Can it be made to toggle?
  JM> +(defcustom pui-uninteresting-package-face 'italic
>This is fine.  But it won't be needed if you make these
packages invisible. 
  JM> Well, now hold on there.  I think you want both, a way to change the
  JM> face and to make the package line invisible.
I don't think so.
  JM> I think you also want this choice for the other package-face possibilities.
  JM> In particular make packages that are up to date invisible.  (Ie don't
  JM> bug me about the things that I don't have to do)
No.  Don't do this.  People use 'pui-list-packages' to see which
packages they have installed.  That would be pretty hard if every
package that they had that was up to date was invisible.
  
  JM> +(defvar pui-uninteresting-packages
>This needs to be a 'defcustom' and it should probably
default to
>'nil'.  Also the doc string needs to be expanded upon.  The way I see
>it looking would be something like this (untested, may not be
>correct)...  
  JM> Yea, ok.  I think you have an extra set of parens around the all
  JM> mule choice.
Probably.
  JM> version))
  JM> (list " " pui-up-to-date-package-face)
  JM> (list "*" pui-outdated-package-face)))
  JM> -      (list "-" pui-uninstalled-package-face))
  JM> -    ))
  JM> +      (list "-" (if (memq pkg-sym pui-uninteresting-packages)
  JM> +                    pui-uninteresting-package-face
  JM> +                    pui-uninstalled-package-face)))))
>
>Not needed if we're hiding instead of fontifying. 
  JM> The change here for pui-up-to-date-package-face depends on what your
  JM> definition of boring is and where you want to plug this feature in at.
  JM> My definition of boring is packages that are not installed and that I
  JM> never want to install (ie mule).  Packages that are installed, but out
  JM> of date are by my definition *not* boring.
My definition of a boring package is any package that I decide that I
don't ever want to see in the *packages* buffer.  Providing that
package *isn't* installed.
The code should check to see if it is an installed package and if it
is the package can't be boring.
  JM> Intercepting at pui-package-symbol-char is an easy way to implement
  JM> my particular definition, and also allows you to make up-to-date
  JM> packages invisible.
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that this is *not*
good.
>Jeff, will you be able to submit a patch along these lines, or
should
>I put it on my todo list?  The more I think about this idea, the more
>I like it. :-) 
  JM> I can probably handle it, but if you want to make some changes along
  JM> the same line, feel free...
Great.  Looking forward to seeing the patch.  There's no rush so
please don't feel pressured. :-)
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