I have been using Xemacs beta only for a few weeks, so I can't comment on the _progress_ of the ``tab'' feature. My thoughts on the tabs range from ``very nifty'' when it happens to work, to ``why bother, the buffer menu does everything I want''. In gnus, the tabs (when they work) allow me to switch between the compose and the article buffer and other gnus buffers -- nifty. But when I browse through a lot of articles in the summary buffer, I tend to use the toolbar and menubar a lot and the gutter acts as a visual discontinuity I have to skip over. I know that I could put it at the bottom of the frame but then I'd rather not have it. Hmm... Maybe the tabs could be turned on/off with a toolbar button? When browsing with W3, I could tab between the last few pages I had browsed -- nifty. But after a while the gutter was overflowing with tabs, so maybe an algorithm (LRU?) needs to be applied. Working with C source files is neat too until the gutter overflows, see above. Maybe the tabs could be used differently: 1. I use a virtual desktop which is 2x3 screens and I often have 4 or more xemacs frames scattered over them. Maybe the tabs could be used to warp me to the corresponding frame? Or maybe this could/should be done with a ``Frame'' menu instead? 2. Or one could introduce the concept of environments. E.g. the tabs could switch me from my C environment to the gnus environment? This would reduce my need for separate frames. Of course this could be done via the Menubar too. In summary, I would suggest that the tabs have potential. But then again, maybe enhancements of the menu system would make more sense than having the tabs. Just my $0.02 worth... -- Manfred Bartz