Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: Chr> In the man dir, I had to use gmake instead of sgi's make. Is it a Chr> goal of the XEmacs project to build with native cc's and make Chr> utilities, or is the object rather to breed a gnu generation of Chr> gcc/ecgs users? I don't think "blame" is the right word. I don't think it was a bad change at all, and it can probably be easily fixed. Yup, this did change. It's not a required part of a build. One can download the -info tarball if one does not have GNU Make. We currently have tarball sizes: $ ll xemacs-21.0*.gz -r--r--r-- 1 slb xemacadm 723983 Apr 26 00:43 xemacs-21.0-b37-elc.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 slb xemacadm 1444298 Apr 26 00:43 xemacs-21.0-b37-info.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 slb xemacadm 6808096 Apr 26 00:42 xemacs-21.0-b37.tar.gz I am loathe to put anything back into the core tarball until I've heard from folks who are paying dearly for their 'net connection.