Please report XEmacs bugs that seem to be concerned with separately distributed packages, _especially_ Dired and EFS, to the package's bug address, ${package}-bugs(a)xemacs.org. (In about half the cases, this is just xemacs-beta anyway.) I'm cc'ing efs-bugs here, but Michael will probably want a efs-report-bug from you, Skip. (Michael: Skip's report is included in full below.) Also, many packages have their own bug-reporting functions. Hm ... do it now ... there will be an announcement of a general facility for XEmacs later (probably in the mail-lib or xemacs-base package), but for now stick this somewhere where XEmacs can find it. There are probably a lot of others, but this will do for a start. (defvar sjt/submit-report-topics '(("xemacs-bug" . report-emacs-bug) ("xemacs-build" . build-report) ("auc-tex" .TeX-submit-bug-report) ("bbdb" . bbdb-submit-bug-report) ("cc-mode" . c-submit-bug-report) ("dired" . dired-report-bug) ("efs" . efs-report-bug) ("eshell" . eshell-report-bug) ("gnus" . gnus-bug) ("psgml" . sgml-submit-bug-report) ("skk". skk-submit-bug-report) ("supercite" . sc-submit-bug-report) ("tramp". tramp-submit-bug) ("vm" . vm-submit-bug-report) ) "Alist of reportable topics and their reporter functions.") (defun sjt/submit-report (topic) "Submit a report on TOPIC (a module or package), prompting with completion." (interactive (list (completing-read "Topic for report: " sjt/submit-report-topics nil nil nil nil "xemacs-bug"))) (call-interactively (cdr (assoc topic sjt/submit-report-topics)))) The rest of this everybody's already seen About a week ago I complained to both the Zope and XEmacs beta mailing lists that I couldn't connect to remote hosts using efs from my Mac Powerbook running 10.2.1 and XEmacs 21.5.b9. Specifically, I wanted to connect to Zope's FTP server. I couldn't even get the server to detect a connection. I ignored the problem for several days then revisited it today. It turns out my efs-ftp-program-args were set incorrectly. The default value for this variable is '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") As a carryover from my previous Linux laptop, I had set it to '("-i" "-u" "-g" "-v") in my init.el file. I no longer recall why I needed "-u" but not "-n" under Linux, but "-u" at least it means something entirely different under MacOSX. I now have this setting in my init.el file: (setq efs-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-g" "-v" "-e" "-n" "-A")) Both the -e (disable command line editing) and -A (force active mode) seem to be required for the version of ftp on my machine. Without -e it can't detect the remote host type if I connect to ftp.xemacs.org. Without -A it attempts to send an EPRT command, which many (most?) ftp servers appear not to understand. (Perhaps efs can be trained to ignore EPRT and EPSV errors.) To the XEmacs beta folks, let me know if you want more input regarding the -e and -A flags. I'd be happy to send some ftp buffer contents your way. -- Skip Montanaro - skip(a)pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py