Speedbar does this; (defcustom speedbar-frame-plist '(minibuffer nil width 20 border-width 0 internal-border-width 0 unsplittable t default-toolbar-visible-p nil has-modeline-p nil menubar-visible-p nil ;; I don't see the particular value of these three, but... text-pointer-glyph [cursor-font :data "top_left_arrow"] nontext-pointer-glyph [cursor-font :data "top_left_arrow"] selection-pointer-glyph [cursor-font :data "hand2"]) cursor-font isn't supported under mswindows so how do I make these X specific? They're not specifiers and there's no device to check when in custom? andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp