I've noticed that file-coding doesn't work under cygwin when compiled with -O3. I'm wondering if anyone using egcs 1.x on x86 (e.g. linux) sees the same problem? Basically compile with file-coding and open a dos-style text file. You should see Noconv:T if its working and Noconv if its not. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp