sb> I've committed new versions of XEmacs to both release trees. sb> There are patches for virgin XEmacs 21.0-pre14 in sb> ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/testing/ Excuse my ignorance, please, but how is one supposed to apply these patches to a plain b57 ? A simple patch < xemacs-21.0.... didn't work since it wouldn't find the correct files to patch, patch-xemacs.sh insists on using a patch-file with a different version number ... (and worse, it won't run out-of-the box on a Solaris machine, since /bin/sh has no `source'-command). Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "Keine Shell, kein Prompt, keine Kekse." -- Jochen Hein in de.comp.os.linux.misc