On 8 Jul 1999, Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] wrote: definitely! We really need to encourage people to upgrade to the latest version. We still get bug reports for stuff as old as 19.14. If one announcement about 21.1.x every other week helps to get rid of those I am all for posting it. In my opinion we should rethink our presence on c.e.x (or our PR in general). I makes me very sad if the public perception of the XEmacs team is a bunch of debian-bashing hackers who don't care about their user base. I do answer a lot of questions on c.e.x (either on the list or more often by email) and so do some others (especially Jan and Hrvoje come to mind). I suggest we adopt a slightly modified policy on this: - whenever possible send the first followup to a question to c.e.x and offer to sort out detailed problems via email (I think I'm currently helping three people through the XEmacs install process). This also avoids duplication of effort (e.g. if Jan already told someone to read README.packages then I don't have to repeat that). - always use a ＠xemacs.org address and an associated .sig (I think Ben suggested this a long time ago) - don't drag the XEmacs team into flamewars involving debian :-) (I am not saying that Per or Hrvoje did that, but some people got the impression that the XEmacs team has problems with Debian -- As far as I know we dont't, especially when Karl takes over xemacs21.deb) - Always keep the www and ftp sites up to date. It's really a shame if the message on the web site, the .message in on the FTP site and the README in the same directory all give different "current versions" -- this should really all be handled automatically. Any comments? Gunnar P.S.: who is the keeper of the ＠xemacs.org aliases/accounts?