SY> Hey there everyone. SY> I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' SY> directory: SY> New Packages in Pre-Release: SY> =========================== SY> ediff-1.37-pkg.tar.gz SY> edit-utils-1.80-pkg.tar.gz SY> ibuffer-1.03-pkg.tar.gz SY> mule-ucs-1.03-pkg.tar.gz (Mule) SY> pcl-cvs-1.59-pkg.tar.gz SY> prog-modes-1.52-pkg.tar.gz SY> sh-script-1.14-pkg.tar.gz SY> text-modes-1.39-pkg.tar.gz SY> xemacs-devel-1.43-pkg.tar.gz Hi Steve, all these installed fine: 16 lines matching ^\(Install\|Retriev\)ing package ` in buffer *Message-Log*. 144:Retrieving package `ediff-1.37-pkg.tar.gz' ... 203:Installing package `ediff' ... 209:Retrieving package `edit-utils-1.80-pkg.tar.gz' ... 306:Installing package `edit-utils' ... 312:Retrieving package `ibuffer-1.03-pkg.tar.gz' ... 342:Installing package `ibuffer' ... 348:Retrieving package `pcl-cvs-1.59-pkg.tar.gz' ... 390:Installing package `pcl-cvs' ... 396:Retrieving package `prog-modes-1.52-pkg.tar.gz' ... 516:Installing package `prog-modes' ... 522:Retrieving package `sh-script-1.14-pkg.tar.gz' ... 540:Installing package `sh-script' ... 546:Retrieving package `text-modes-1.39-pkg.tar.gz' ... 608:Installing package `text-modes' ... 614:Retrieving package `xemacs-devel-1.43-pkg.tar.gz' ... 662:Installing package `xemacs-devel' ... Adrian SY> Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: SY> ================================================== SY> bbdb-1.19-pkg.tar.gz SY> clearcase-1.03-pkg.tar.gz SY> dictionary-1.07-pkg.tar.gz SY> edict-1.13-pkg.tar.gz (Mule) SY> eudc-1.36-pkg.tar.gz SY> footnote-1.14-pkg.tar.gz SY> latin-unity-0.99-pkg.tar.gz (Mule) SY> mmm-mode-1.00-pkg.tar.gz SY> net-utils-1.24-pkg.tar.gz SY> ps-print-1.03-pkg.tar.gz SY> psgml-1.27-pkg.tar.gz SY> speedbar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz SY> tramp-1.03-pkg.tar.gz SY> viper-1.32-pkg.tar.gz SY> xemacs-base-1.59-pkg.tar.gz SY> Detailed Changes: SY> ================ SY> ediff-1.37-pkg.tar.gz SY> --------------------- SY> 2002-03-05 Michael Kifer <kifer(a)cs.stonybrook.edu&gt; SY> * ediff-init.el: comments. SY> * ediff-hook.el: Got rid of autoloads. Not needed, since the hook SY> is loaded. SY> * ediff-mult.el (ediff-intersect-directories, SY> ediff-prepare-meta-buffer,ediff-get-directory-files-under-revision): SY> cleanup. SY> (ediff-draw-dir-diffs): now supports the "C" command in directory SY> difference buffer. SY> (ediff-dir-diff-copy-file): new function that implements copying SY> of files from one Ediff dir to another SY> (ediff-bury-dir-diffs-buffer): kills the buffer instead. SY> (ediff-append-custom-diff): better error msgs. SY> * ediff-util.el (ediff-compute-custom-diffs-maybe): buglet fix. SY> (ediff-inferior-compare-regions): Use SY> ediff-clone-buffer-for-region-comparison. Better and simpler interface. SY> * ediff.el (ediff-directories-internal): Cleanup. SY> (ediff-clone-buffer-for-region-comparison): Better interface. SY> edit-utils-1.80-pkg.tar.gz SY> -------------------------- SY> 2002-03-04 Vin Shelton <acs(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * Makefile (REQUIRES): Added dired and mail-lib SY> 2002-03-03 Nix <nix(a)esperi.demon.co.uk&gt; SY> * desktop.el: Synch with FSF Emacs 21.1. SY> ibuffer-1.03-pkg.tar.gz SY> ----------------------- SY> 2002-03-05 John Paul Wallington <jpw(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * ibuffer.el (ibuffer-shrink-to-fit): Use window-displayed-height SY> rather than window-height with fudge factor to avoid inadvertent SY> deletion. Handle owin argument. SY> 2002-03-02 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * ibuffer.el (ibuffer-header-line-face): Convert SY> `ibuffer-header-line-face' from `defface' to `defcustom' and SY> initialize it to `header-line. SY> * ibuffer.el (header-line): Define unless bound. SY> * ibuffer.el (ibuffer-fontify-region-function): Don't quote face SY> argument. SY> 2002-03-03 John Paul Wallington <jpw(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * ibuffer.el (ibuffer-shrink-to-fit): test whether window is only SY> one in frame during enlargement iterations. SY> From Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> 2002-02-28 John Paul Wallington <jpw(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * ibuffer.el (ibuffer-filter-format-alist): fix type, add group. SY> (toplevel): define-ibuffer-column major-mode: add name. SY> (toplevel): define-ibuffer-column name: fix indentation. SY> mule-ucs-1.03-pkg.tar.gz (Mule) SY> ------------------------ SY> 2002-03-06 Norbert Koch <nk(a)viteno.net&gt; SY> * doc/mule-ucs.texi (Overview): Typo fix. Add missing '＠' in SY> email address. SY> 2002-03-06 Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com&gt; SY> * doc/mule-ucs.texi (Overview): SY> * README.XEmacs: SY> Typo fix in init file example. SY> pcl-cvs-1.59-pkg.tar.gz SY> ----------------------- SY> 2002-03-05 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * pcl-cvs.texi (Customization): Add note about setting SY> 'cvs-diff-flags' before PCL-CVS is loaded and that PCL-CVS gets SY> the value of these flags from ~/.cvsrc. SY> prog-modes-1.52-pkg.tar.gz SY> -------------------------- SY> 2002-03-04 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * f90.el: Sync with GNU Emacs 21.1. SY> 2002-02-28 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * ruby-mode.el: New file. SY> * inf-ruby.el: Ditto. SY> * Makefile (REQUIRES): Added ilisp for inf-ruby. SY> * Makefile (ELCS): Added ruby-mode.elc and inf-ruby.elc. SY> * package-info.in (provides): Added ruby-mode and inf-ruby. SY> sh-script-1.14-pkg.tar.gz SY> ------------------------- SY> 2002-03-02 Jeff Miller <jmiller(a)cablespeed.com&gt; SY> * executable.el: missing autoload cookie. SY> text-modes-1.39-pkg.tar.gz SY> -------------------------- SY> 2002-03-02 Jeff Mincy <mincy(a)rcn.com&gt; SY> * xpm-mode.el: (xpm-init) fix infinite loop, SY> (xpm-toolbar-select-colour) null button SY> 2002-02-28 Volker Franz <volker.franz(a)tuebingen.mpg.de&gt; SY> * whitespace-mode.el: If add-minor-mode is bound, then uses SY> add-minor-mode instead of directly changing minor-mode-alist. SY> Added autoload-cookies for this. SY> (whitespace-mode-line-string): newly defined with SY> autoload-cookies. SY> (whitespace-incremental-mode-line-string): likewise. SY> xemacs-devel-1.43-pkg.tar.gz SY> ---------------------------- SY> 2002-03-04 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * patch-keywords.el: Conditionalise key binding on choice of MUA. SY> Update 'Commentary'. SY> (patch-keywords-insert-vm): New. SY> (patch-keywords-insert-gnus): New, renamed from SY> `patch-keywords-insert'. SY> (patch-review-mua): Enable VM. SY> (patch-keywords): Update doc string. SY> (patch-keywords-insert-vm): Update doc string. SY> 2002-02-25 Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * Patcher 3.0 is released. SY> 2002-02-22 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * package-info.in: Add patch-keywords. SY> * Makefile (REQUIRES): Add gnus for 'patch-keywords.el'. SY> (ELCS): Add patch-keywords.elc SY> 2002-01-18 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * patch-keywords.el (patch-keywords-insert): Don't abbreviate SY> numeric keywords. SY> 2002-01-17 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * patch-keywords.el (patch-keywords): Update doc string. SY> 2002-01-16 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * patch-keywords.el (patch-keywords): Use full release numbers. SY> (patch-keywords-insert): Use last digit of numeric keyword. SY> 2002-01-15 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * patch-keywords.el: Typo fix. SY> (patch-keywords-message-beginning-of-line): Use SY> `patch-keywords-in-header-p' in older gnus-versions < 5.090004. SY> (patch-keywords-insert): Supply version argument to SY> `gnus-continuum-version'. It wasn't optional in gnus-versions SY> < 5.090004. SY> 2002-01-14 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; SY> * patch-keywords.el: New. SY> Installing These: SY> ================ SY> Manually: SY> -------- SY> 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: SY> /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ SY> 2) Unpack them to: [1] SY> /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ SY> 3) Re-start XEmacs. SY> Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): SY> ---------------------------------------------- SY> 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases SY> 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install SY> 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief SY> instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). SY> 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected SY> 5) Re-start XEmacs. SY> Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): SY> ------------------------------------------- SY> 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases SY> 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install SY> 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. SY> Footnotes: SY> [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: SY> /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ SY> -- SY> |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 10D5C9C5>---| SY> | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | SY> | It's a way of life. | SY> |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---| -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Hi Steve, text-modes-1.39-pkg.tar.gz installed fine. Unfortunately, there is one more autoload-cookie missing in whitespace.el (sorry, my fault): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- lisp/text-modes/whitespace-mode.orig Mon Mar 4 23:39:43 2002 +++ lisp/text-modes/whitespace-mode.el Wed Mar 6 19:01:28 2002 ＠＠ -429,6 +429,7 ＠＠ (make-variable-buffer-local 'whitespace-incremental-mode) +;;;###autoload (defun whitespace-incremental-mode (&optional arg) "Toggle whitespace incremental mode. With arg, turn whitespace incremental mode on iff arg is positive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The new ChangeLog should then be: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2002-02-28 Volker Franz <volker.franz(a)tuebingen.mpg.de&gt; * whitespace-mode.el: If add-minor-mode is bound, then uses add-minor-mode instead of directly changing minor-mode-alist. Added autoload-cookies for this. (whitespace-mode-line-string): newly defined with autoload-cookies. (whitespace-incremental-mode-line-string): likewise. (whitespace-incremental-mode): added autoload cookie. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Cheers, Volker

Steve Youngs writes: installed all these bar mule-ucs-1.03-pkg.tar.gz for now i am planning to build the ben-mule branch so im trying to workout how to have mule packages and non mule packages installed here and my non mule version not complaining about not being mule enabled i am going to install the mule packages into a mule-packages directory that is only available to the ben-mule version and see if that works :) -- XEmacs Advocate | Do not try the patience of Wizards, FreeBSD Devote | for they are subtle and quick to anger. Perl Hacker | - Elric (Technomage) , Babylon 5. Apache God | <mailto:rendhalver＠xemacs.org>

On 07 Mar 2002, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: [...] Speaking of which ... is there an easy workaround for this? I would like to test Ben-MULE but that's a pain since it means renaming the package out of the way... ...can I get away from it some other way? Daniel -- You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss three bucks goodbye! -- Narrator (Paul Frees), _Hardware Wars_

Stephen J. Turnbull writes: cool thats good to hear steve are you aware that the packages installer installs mule-packages in the same place as non-mule packages ?? i was using it to install all the mule packages in preparaion for building the ben-mule branch and noticed that they got installed to my xemacs-packages directory, should this be changed so it installs mule packages into a mule-packages directory ?? that explains why i have had trouble building the ben-mule branch i thought it was something with my setup thanks steven -- XEmacs Advocate | Do not try the patience of Wizards, FreeBSD Devote | for they are subtle and quick to anger. Perl Hacker | - Elric (Technomage) , Babylon 5. Apache God | <mailto:rendhalver＠xemacs.org>

|--==> "r" == rendhalver <(Peter Brown)" <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org&gt;&gt; writes: r> Steve Youngs writes: r> installed all these bar mule-ucs-1.03-pkg.tar.gz for now Cool. r> i am planning to build the ben-mule branch so im trying to workout how r> to have mule packages and non mule packages installed here and my non r> mule version not complaining about not being mule enabled You won't have any problems. Mule packages go into '/usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/' and non-Mule XEmacsen don't look at that directory when building the load-path. You'll only have a problem if you try to install Mule packages with a non-Mule XEmacs. If you did that, the Mule packages would go into the "normal" packages directory (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/). -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 10D5C9C5>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---|

SY> You'll only have a problem if you try to install Mule packages SY> with a non-Mule XEmacs. If you did that, the Mule packages SY> would go into the "normal" packages directory SY> (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/). This is sometimes false. Mule XEmacs (I never use no-Mule) has put Mule packages in /usr/local/lib/xemacs/{,xemacs-packages/} once in a while. I haven't been able to track down if this is a general bug or something to do with local conditions (eg, building packages from source). However, oddities in package installation location have been reported by others. So be careful, Peter. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

SY> |--==> "r" == rendhalver <(Peter Brown)" <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org&gt;&gt; writes: r> Steve Youngs writes: r> installed all these bar mule-ucs-1.03-pkg.tar.gz for now SY> Cool. r> i am planning to build the ben-mule branch so im trying to r> workout how to have mule packages and non mule packages r> installed here and my non mule version not complaining about r> not being mule enabled SY> You won't have any problems. Mule packages go into SY> '/usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/' and non-Mule XEmacsen SY> don't look at that directory when building the load-path. SY> You'll only have a problem if you try to install Mule packages SY> with a non-Mule XEmacs. If you did that, the Mule packages Hi Steve, don't you consider this a bug? I'm cool with an error messages saying that a non-Mule XEmacs can't install a Mule package. But just doing the wrong is is just that, right? SY> would go into the "normal" packages directory SY> (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/). SY> -- SY> |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 10D5C9C5>---| SY> | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | SY> | It's a way of life. | SY> |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---| -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/