I haven't had time to get to this yet (this is only an issue at home), but I think I'll be able to try it tonight. Yes, I'm behind a firewall (at home), blocking incoming traffic (not outgoing). -----Original Message----- From: Steve Youngs [mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:47 AM To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: shell-command-on-region takes 60 secs and huge memory for simple process |--==> "DMK" == David M Karr <dmkarr(a)earthlink.net&gt; writes: DMK> Well, I went ahead and just upgraded to 21.4.4, following the instructions on DMK> the web site. I got to "List & Install", and still got a backtrace, which DMK> follows. DMK> Versions: DMK> emacs-version: "21.4 (patch 4) \"Artificial Intelligence\" XEmacs Lucid" DMK> efs-version: "1.20pre2/1.63" DMK> ------------------------------ DMK> Signaling: (error "Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable") David, are you behind a firewall by any chance? I think if you (setq efs-use-passive-mode t) Your problems hopefully will go away. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---|