Andy> I use smtpmail for sending mail and gnus nnfloder for Andy> reading mlist stuff. If I do M-x mail and send some mail, Andy> all works fine. If I do this from gnus it says it is sending Andy> it , but I don't get the usual smtp exchange in the echo Andy> area and the mail is not actually sent (my apologies to Andy> those who might have thought I was being more antisocial Andy> than usual). Andy, the crucial bit must be somewhere in there since I was able to send mail from gnus (see Message-ID: <ur9y8692v.fsf(a)ecf.teradyne.com&gt; sent to you only). Good Luck, Adrian 35 lines matching mail\|message\|smtp\|gnus in buffer .emacs. 4: '(gnus-play-startup-jingle nil) 9: '(nnfolder-directory "~/Mail" t) 12: '(nnmail-treat-duplicates (quote warn)) 17: '(display-time-mail-balloon-gnus-split-width 25) 28: '(gnus-server-alist (quote (("" nnfolder "" (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))) t) 29: '(gnus-async-prefetch-article-p (quote gnus-async-unread-p)) 31: '(display-time-mail-balloon-show-gnus-group t) 32: '(gnus-read-active-file (quote some)) 41: '(gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups t) 46: '(mail-host-address "ecf.teradyne.com" t) 47: '(gnus-suppress-duplicates t) 65: '(send-mail-function (quote smtpmail-send-it) t) 70: '(display-time-form-list (quote (load mail))) 71: '(gnus-activate-level 1) 75: '(display-time-ignore-read-mail nil) 84: '(cvs-shell "/Cygnus/B19/H-i386-cygwin32/bin/sh.exe" t) 86: '(gnus-use-long-file-name nil) 90: '(toolbar-news-reader (quote gnus)) 91: '(gnus-asynchronous t) 99: '(mime-edit-split-message nil t) 100: '(toolbar-mail-reader (quote gnus)) 105: '(message-send-mail-function (quote smtpmail-send-it)) 110: '(mime-editor/split-message nil t) 117: '(gnus-summary-ignore-duplicates t) 118: '(message-signature-file "~/.signature") 119: '(nnfolder-active-file "~\\Mail\\active" t) 122: '(display-time-mail-balloon-subject-width 30) 130: '(user-mail-address &quot;aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com&quot; t) 131: '(query-user-mail-address nil) 132: '(gnus-check-new-newsgroups (quote ask-server)) 136: '(message-default-organization "Teradyne GmbH" t) 137: '(exec-path (quote ("c:/CYGNUS/B19/H-i386-cygwin32/bin/" "c:/usr/local/bin/" "c:/PERL/bin/" "c:/WINNT/system32/" "c:/WINNT/" "c:/cvs/" "c:/PROGRA~1/Teradyne/IG-XL/bin/" "c:/program files/devstudio/sharedide/bin/ide/" "c:/program files/devstudio/sharedide/bin/" "c:/program files/devstudio/vc/bin/" "\"C:/PROGRAM FILES/XNFS\"/" "c:/export/home/tmp/CVSroot/xemacs-20/lib-src/"))) 138: '(gnus-message-archive-group nil) 141: '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "engine.ecf.teradyne.com") 143: '(message-signature t) Andy> I'm guessing others aren't seeing this - so maybe its some Andy> interaction with smtpmail? Andy> andy Andy> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy> " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier Andy> than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Andy> Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: Andy> www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com