Golubev> Hans-Guenter Weigand wrote in Golubev> <http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/199810/msg00634.html> Golubev> <m0zUKrn-001lhlC(a)wiesbaden.netsurf.de&gt; Golubev> Has ever downloading cvs repository contents (`,v' files) Golubev> using cvsup or ctm or other been set up? It appears that Golubev> that discussion ended up with nothing. Oops. cvs.xemacs.org (aka sunsite.dk) offers anonymous rsync as a standard feature. I'm not a rsync expert, but rsync -arvz rsync＠cvs.xemacs.org::xemacscvs ./ works for me, creating or updating XEmacs (with xemacs, xemacs-19, packages, xemacs-builds, xemacsweb, and some old junk) and CVSROOT in ./ I don't think sunsite offers cvsup or ctm. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

Ilya> On 12 Feb 2002 22:10:37 +0900 Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ilya> After my firewall was fixed to meet rsync requirements (will Ilya> describe the fix on request), it works for me too. And I do Ilya> not see `XEmacs/xemacs/src/.cvsignore,v' and other Ilya> `.cvsignore,v' files in rsync output. I take your word for it that you _don't_ get them (what a bummer), but I do have them. I imagine this is true for most users of rsync. Maybe this is a relatively recent change? My most recent updated .cvsignore is dated 2002-06-17. There is a global cvsignore file. I think that it is probably reasonable to put many of the more common ignores in there; that has the advantage of being all server-side, too. Your suggestions would be welcome. Ilya> On 22 Oct 2002 15:21:16 +0200 Martin Dalum from sunsite Ilya> wrote: Ilya> How do other users of `xemacscvs' rsync module go without Ilya> it? Do they maintain '.cvsignore' in their working copies Ilya> (cvs checkouts) manually, or there is some other solution? If this _is_ a recent change and .cvsignore (which is a pretty harmless dotfile AFAIK) can't be given special treatment, what you can do is very simple: do a single CVS update from sunsite, then check the .cvsignore files into your repository using the cvs -d flag. This will not be harmful if Sunsite's policy with respect to the .cvsignore files is amended; the .cvsignore,v files will merely be overwritten. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

Martin Dalum <garfield(a)sunsite.dk&gt; writes: Hmm... Was bored anyway.. It's fixed now.. .cvsignore,v files are available.. All other dot-files are not. If you need more dotfiles available, please say so. -- Venlig hilsen / Regards from, | /* If you listen carefully, you can Martin Dalum | actually hear this code suck. */ garfield(a)webz.dk | -- From the Linux iptables code

Ilya> On 12 Feb 2002 22:10:37 +0900 Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ilya> After my firewall was fixed to meet rsync requirements (will describe Ilya> the fix on request), it works for me too. And I do not see Ilya> `XEmacs/xemacs/src/.cvsignore,v' and other `.cvsignore,v' files in Ilya> rsync output. They are still visible to cvs client only (and Ilya> viewcvs). So one can do cvs checkout from local cvs copy, but it will Ilya> not contain `.cvsignore' files. Ilya> On 22 Oct 2002 15:21:16 +0200 Martin Dalum from sunsite wrote: Ilya> How do other users of `xemacscvs' rsync module go without it? Do they Ilya> maintain '.cvsignore' in their working copies (cvs checkouts) Ilya> manually, or there is some other solution? Ilya> After all, how many such users are there? Are Stephen Ilya> J. Turnbull and Adrian Aichner the only users of `xemacscvs' Ilya> rsync module? Or there are other ones? Hi Ilya, there are others rsyncing as well. I only rsync to keep an additional backup, although some files in the repository contain :, which is not a valid character in Windows filenames. I have not tried to checkout from my local repository ever. Thanks for looking into the rsync issues, Ilya! Best regards, Adrian Ilya> The final aim of it all is stated by Hans-Guenter Weigand in Ilya> <http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/199810/msg00634.html> Ilya> <m0zUKrn-001lhlC(a)wiesbaden.netsurf.de&gt;: -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Unfortunately I have to veto this because this size will hide buttons under UNIX making it even less useable than it currently is. I guess we could conditionalize it on platform ... andy