From: SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org&gt; Date: 05 Sep 1998 23:34:47 -0700 . . . I don't like the visual bell because it is too startling. The FSF Emacs change sounds like a step in the right direction to me. I used to use visible bell a lot and the FSF thing looks like an improvement to me. BTW it flashes the top-most and bottom-most lines of the screen -- I think someone said it was just the top-most. As another variant, I think that Hemlock's visible bell flashes the edges of the screen. Sort of like what FSF's Emacs does, but adding the left-most and right-most column (or two) as well. Rick

Todd Larason <jtl(a)molehill.org&gt; wrote: Eons ago, in my MSDOS port of GNU Emacs 19.19 (or so), there was a visual bell option that did just this (divide the screen into a 3x3 matrix, and the center block could be flashed as a visual bell indicator). The idea was that, as one's eyes are often looking near the center of the screen, flashing the center of the screen would be more noticeable; flashing the edges/border wasn't considered, as these would be more likely to be in the user's peripheral vision. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo(a)sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day.