Stephen> No, I don't see one. Furthermore, Michael, I don't understand you of Stephen> all people making this objection. I thought you advocated automatic Stephen> building of lists of files and things whenever possible, precisely Stephen> because you think XEmacs can get it as right as anybody does? The discussion you refer to was centered around an entirely different topic---we were arguing whether missing dir files should produce error messages. But you're right: If it were up to me, I'd dump the whole concept of dir files and caches and whatnot. My machine isn't especially fast by today's standards, and when I start up info, it pulls a gazillion info files from a distributed file system. I don't mind the startup cost (maybe 20 seconds) at all. I think the problem in Hrvoje's setup is really that all the info files are gzipped. Given today's price for disk space, I think unpacking them would be the easiest way to fix the problem. Stephen> If so, shouldn't the only cache we trust be one we make Stephen> ourselves? Sure, but in that case, let's abandon dir files entirely. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla