[cc's shortened] Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com&gt; writes: > I think this means that the bottom gutter should be moved. It > isn't relevant to the bottommostwindow per se, it's a frame > element. For instance if I'm using buffer tabs and have two > windows in the frame then the bottom gutter isn't more relevant > to one window than the other. Maybe. But from what have seen so far from the gutter usages (W3 progress bars) I like that they come above the echo area. The echo area/minibuffer is really frame element too and it is nice to have such an important data source/input area at a place that is easy to locate visually. The top gutter also appears below the menu bar.