sb> I see there's a new stable CVS out. Any success/horror stories, sb> or is this pretty much the same as 1.9.28/1.9.29? I just started playing with it yesterday. So far, so good. After a couple of days more testing I'll upgrade cvs.xemacs.org. No real functionality upgrades from 1.9.28, but it feels a little faster for some reason. Also should fix quite a few cygwin/nt related problems (I think the 'eternal loop on finish' is now gone, but am not sure...). -- Jareth Hein | jareth(a)camelot.co.jp | ハイン ジェラス Toolsmith & Program lead | http://www.camelot.co.jp | 開発部チーフ Camelot Software, Ltd. | |（株）キャメロット "It's a sad sign of the times when 'political machine' is redefined to include 'main-line battle tank'" - Ambassador Grossblunder