10:28 a.m.
Ben Wing writes:
If people really don't like these accelerators
appearing at the beginning of the menu items, a variable can be
added to optionally turn them off, but I think this is rather
pointless because other menu items have accelerators and many or
most of the menu users will use the accelerators if the support is
there.
The other menu changes I like a lot, the accelerators I absolutely
despise (they just visually jar). Would it be possible to add this
variable for turning them off?
Thanks
Robert
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5:39 p.m.
New subject: Ben's massive changes #1
At 11:28 AM 3/14/00 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote:
Ben Wing writes:
> If people really don't like these accelerators
> appearing at the beginning of the menu items, a variable can be
> added to optionally turn them off, but I think this is rather
> pointless because other menu items have accelerators and many or
> most of the menu users will use the accelerators if the support is
> there.
The other menu changes I like a lot, the accelerators I absolutely
despise (they just visually jar). Would it be possible to add this
variable for turning them off?
Can you not optimize the algorithm somewhat so you don't get numbers at the
beginning?
andy
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Dr Andy Piper
Senior Consultant Architect, BEA Systems Ltd
6:01 p.m.
New subject: Ben's massive changes #1
Andy Piper writes:
At 11:28 AM 3/14/00 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote:
>Ben Wing writes:
> > If people really don't like these accelerators
> > appearing at the beginning of the menu items, a variable can be
> > added to optionally turn them off, but I think this is rather
> > pointless because other menu items have accelerators and many or
> > most of the menu users will use the accelerators if the support is
> > there.
>
>The other menu changes I like a lot, the accelerators I absolutely
>despise (they just visually jar). Would it be possible to add this
>variable for turning them off?
Can you not optimize the algorithm somewhat so you don't get numbers at the
beginning?
I was actually thinking of all of the accelerators, not just the
numbers in front of eg the buffers in the buffer listing. XEmacs
currently looks far too much like an MSWindows app for my liking.
Robert
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The above are my opinions,
and my opinions only.
8:29 a.m.
New subject: Ben's massive changes #1
Robert Pluim writes:
Ben Wing writes:
> If people really don't like these accelerators
> appearing at the beginning of the menu items, a variable can be
> added to optionally turn them off, but I think this is rather
> pointless because other menu items have accelerators and many or
> most of the menu users will use the accelerators if the support is
> there.
The other menu changes I like a lot, the accelerators I absolutely
despise (they just visually jar). Would it be possible to add this
variable for turning them off?
best world scenario:
1. put an entry in "Options" to manipulate accelerators, not under
"Menubars", 'cs accelerators apply to dd/pu menus, too
2. distinguish enabling accelerators in the menubar and in the
dd/pu menus
3. offer a choice between different visual clues, i.e., underlining
as it is customary in windows and motif, or using a different
face
e.g., i'd like no accelerators in the menubar, accelerators in all
menus, and using two slightly different hues for accelerators and
menu text as the visual clue...
also, i agree with Hrvoje: if emacs knows that i have a meta and an
alt key, please use alt to start acceleration
my 100 lire, ciao
1:16 a.m.
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Ben's hands are healed to the popint he can code again? Or has he got
some souped up voice recognition system? Seems to me it's been a long
time since he's posted. Or did I miss something?
Either way, good to have him back.
--
Matthew O. Persico
"If you were supposed to understand it,
we wouldn't call it code."
3:13 a.m.
New subject: Ben's Back? {was:Re: Ben's massive changes #1}
yes, i'm doing somewhat better.
Matthew Persico wrote:
Ben's hands are healed to the popint he can code again? Or has he
got
some souped up voice recognition system? Seems to me it's been a long
time since he's posted. Or did I miss something?
Either way, good to have him back.
--
Matthew O. Persico
"If you were supposed to understand it,
we wouldn't call it code."
--
Ben
In order to save my hands, I am cutting back on my mail. I also write
as succinctly as possible -- please don't be offended. If you send me
mail, you _will_ get a response, but please be patient, especially for
XEmacs-related mail. If you need an immediate response and it is not
apparent in your message, please say so. Thanks for your understanding.
See also http://www.666.com/ben/typing.html.
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