1:15 a.m.
It looks like Emacs is going to deprecate outline-mode in favor of
org-mode. Getting org-mode into packages is looking more pressing.
Volunteers welcome. (I think Mats is already working on this.)
Steve
Karl Fogel writes on emacs-devel:
Stefan Monnier <monnier(a)iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>or even make outline-mode into an alias for org-mode.
+1
At least, I never use plain outline mode anymore; org-mode seems to be
the right superset.
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"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
It looks like Emacs is going to deprecate outline-mode in favor of
org-mode. Getting org-mode into packages is looking more pressing.
Volunteers welcome. (I think Mats is already working on this.)
Mats and I just sent another batch of patches upstream. Let me know if
you want to help, I'll set up access to our org-mode clone where we
manage XEmacs-related changes.
Technicality: Note org-mode *depends* on outline-mode.
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Michael Sperber writes:
Technicality: Note org-mode *depends* on outline-mode.
Tell that to the other Stefan! ;-)
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>>>> Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Getting org-mode into packages is looking more pressing. Volunteers
welcome. (I think Mats is already working on this.)
It is Michael Sperber who is the lead on this. I've just volunteered
to do some testing. As you say: Volunteers welcome. You can always
test more!
Yours
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> On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:15:50 +0900, "Stephen J.
Turnbull"
> <stephen(a)xemacs.org> wrote:
It looks like Emacs is going to deprecate outline-mode in favor of
org-mode. Getting org-mode into packages is looking more pressing.
Volunteers welcome. (I think Mats is already working on this.)
As Michael said, org-mode depends on outline-mode.
I am a big fan of org-mode, I use the spreadsheet and the
preview-latex-fragments functionality frequently. So if I
can help testing the finished org-mode Xemacs pkg, let me
know.
However a lot of functions do not work in Xemacs, for
example export to ODT. I would no mind try to port the
latter into Xemacs. But there are much more examples. So we
might get a couple of complains concerning org-mode if we
put in as a package.
The other issue is that for 21.4.X we would need to use a
older version of org-mode, namely 6.3X.
Or we desactivate org-mode for 21.4 directly.
Uwe Brauer
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Uwe Brauer writes:
So we might get a couple of complains concerning org-mode if we put
in as a package.
I personally don't care if some commands (or even a lot of commands)
fail safe. As long as no commands crash XEmacs (but that is a bug in
XEmacs, not in the package) or destroy data, and the package does
provide valuable new functionality, it's reasonable to add a partially
functional package. We have a standard answer to complaints: "File a
tracker issue. Patches welcome!"
The other issue is that for 21.4.X we would need to use a
older version of org-mode, namely 6.3X.
We don't *need* to provide new functionality for 21.4, only avoid
breaking old functionality. Of course it's highly desirable. If
org-mode 6.3X works more or less out-of-the-box, then we can *and
should* provide that package as org-mode-63x and use whatever dodge we
use in such cases (like vc and vc-cc) to ensure the right package is
chosen at runtime.
Steve
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