Hrvoje> Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: I can't make sense of this (IMHO YMMV obviously, just one data point). This is the way text selection works in Motif textfields, and the way text selection works in all directions in the pen-based devices (all by Sharp, so it's really not a diverse sample) I've used. This seems relatively natural to me. Hrvoje> The former (dragging the modeline) looks more natural to Hrvoje> me, but neither view really satisfies me. The problem Hrvoje> with the viewport idea is that viewports normally operate Hrvoje> on other screen areas. Here the modeline would be a Hrvoje> viewport for itself, which looks and feels weird. Agreed, but I wonder what would happen if you reversed the polarity of the modeline so that it appeared to be a depressed division in the text area rather than a raised one. I guess this would look too weird with a horizontal scrollbar, though. Hrvoje> So I'd like to resurrect Kyle's proposal, which was: when Hrvoje> modeline is too large to be displayed, simply draw an Hrvoje> arrow at its right, and have clicking the arrow scroll the Hrvoje> modeline by some amount. After the scrolling, a similar Hrvoje> arrow on the left side could revert it. I think this is most natural for me. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 /* What's the big deal about the millennium? ............................. .... There are still 362 shopping days left until the millennial epoch! */