1:51 a.m.
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Dear Bug Team!
I ran xemacs and gnuserv.
I then ran gnuclient (with DISPLAY set to a different
display than the one under which xemacs was run)
While gnuclient was running, I killed its X-display
(the X-display was supplied by goglobal). xemacs got a segv.
I used to run 21.4.8 and in this case of the X-display dying, xemacs
would go into a compute loop and I would have to kill it by hand.
I saw in the 21.4.10 release notes that this bug was called the
Energizer Bunny Bug and that it was fixed.
I suppose crashing immediately is an improvement, :-)
but it sure would be nice if xemacs just kept running (normally, not
like the bunny) and would accept new gnuclient connections.
Here is the dump. This shows a bus error but I believe
I have also seen a segv crash.
Thanks
- jjh
PS. Did you know that the product that included the original
xemacs (aka lemacs) was named Energize?
Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.
Reading symbols from /usr/dt/lib/libXm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/dt/lib/libXm.so.4
Reading symbols from /usr/dt/lib/libtt.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/dt/lib/libtt.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libXmu.so.4...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libXmu.so.4
Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4
Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libXext.so.0...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libXext.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libSM.so.6...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libSM.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libICE.so.6...
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libICE.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcurses.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libcurses.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libldap.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libldap.so.3
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libm.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libelf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libelf.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgen.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgen.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libdl.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libc.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libmp.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-80/lib/libc_psr.so.1...
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-80/lib/libc_psr.so.1
#0 0xfec9a608 in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1
(gdb) where
#0 0xfec9a608 in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1
#1 0x0008f878 in fatal_error_signal ()
#2 <signal handler called>
#3 0x00201694 in oblookup ()
#4 0x00185c84 in make_gui_item_from_keywords_internal ()
#5 0x000f43c0 in menu_item_descriptor_to_widget_value_1 ()
#6 0x000f49f0 in menu_item_descriptor_to_widget_value_1 ()
#7 0x000f49f0 in menu_item_descriptor_to_widget_value_1 ()
#8 0x000f4f5c in set_frame_menubar ()
#9 0x00227de8 in x_create_widgets ()
#10 0x0015c65c in Fmake_frame ()
#11 0x000ccf08 in Ffuncall ()
#12 0x00062270 in execute_optimized_program ()
#13 0x00061b98 in funcall_compiled_function ()
#14 0x000cba08 in Feval ()
#15 0x000ccef0 in Ffuncall ()
#16 0x00062270 in execute_optimized_program ()
#17 0x00065dd0 in Fbyte_code ()
#18 0x000cbbec in Feval ()
#19 0x0009e578 in condition_case_1 ()
#20 0x000a17ac in condition_case_3 ()
#21 0x000637e0 in execute_rare_opcode ()
#22 0x00062048 in execute_optimized_program ()
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#23 0x00061b98 in funcall_compiled_function ()
#24 0x000ccdf0 in Ffuncall ()
#25 0x000d7640 in catch_them_squirmers_call2 ()
#26 0x0009e578 in condition_case_1 ()
#27 0x000d7aa0 in call2_trapping_errors ()
#28 0x001c1350 in read_process_output ()
#29 0x0010d2e4 in execute_internal_event ()
#30 0x0010fc84 in Fdispatch_event ()
#31 0x0006f66c in Fcommand_loop_1 ()
#32 0x0009e578 in condition_case_1 ()
#33 0x0006efcc in command_loop_2 ()
#34 0x0009c9f4 in internal_catch ()
#35 0x0006f194 in initial_command_loop ()
#36 0x00091018 in xemacs_21_4_12_sparc_sun_solaris2_7 ()
#37 0x00091a94 in main ()
(gdb)
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System Info to help track down your bug:
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uname -a: SunOS some-machine 5.7 Generic_106541-23 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-80
./configure '--without-prefix' '--with-xpm' '--with-png'
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Compiler: cc -v -xO4
Relocating allocator for buffers: yes
GNU version of malloc: yes
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2:23 a.m.
>>>> "Jim" == Jim Holmlund
<jim.holmlund(a)sun.com> writes:
Jim> but it sure would be nice if xemacs just kept running
Jim> (normally, not like the bunny) and would accept new gnuclient
Jim> connections.
You'll have to provide that patch. Nobody currently active in
development seems to think it is particularly desirable. A variant
(an xemacs that can be started without a window, with all windows
created by gnuclient) is a FAQ, with similar lack of interest from the
developers.
Jim> Here is the dump. This shows a bus error but I believe I
Jim> have also seen a segv crash.
Thanks for the report. We'll see what we can do to get XEmacs to exit
gracefully.
--
Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp
University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
Ask not how you can "do" free software business;
ask what your business can "do for" free software.
8:23 p.m.
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Holmlund
<jim.holmlund(a)sun.com> writes:
Jim> but it sure would be nice if xemacs just kept running
Jim> (normally, not like the bunny) and would accept new gnuclient
Jim> connections.
You'll have to provide that patch. Nobody currently active in
development seems to think it is particularly desirable. A variant
(an xemacs that can be started without a window, with all windows
created by gnuclient) is a FAQ, with similar lack of interest from the
developers.
Ok, thanks for the info. If any developer has the time to tell me, I wouldn't
mind hearing why he/she doesn't think this is desirable.
Jim.Holmlund(a)sun.com - JPDA Team, Java Software, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
3:44 a.m.
>>>> "Jim" == Jim Holmlund
<jim.holmlund(a)sun.com> writes:
Jim> Ok, thanks for the info. If any developer has the time to
Jim> tell me, I wouldn't mind hearing why he/she doesn't think
Jim> [xemacs as a server waiting for gnuclient] is desirable.
The only opposition I know of is to committing one's own time to it.
It doesn't look like an easy problem. Most users seem to really want
XEmacs to exit when they log out. Admins don't like processes that
don't go away, and might very well contain data the user wants to
save, but they don't know. XEmacs can use up big hunks of VM; even if
it's swapped out, that's not desirable. So we need to find ways to
make that configurable, preferably at run time.
AFAIK gnuserv connections aren't really first class citizens; XEmacs
has to connect to some device. This means that it may be necessary to
fiddle with the event loop. The crash that you observe suggests that
this is so; the patch that stopped the Energizer bunny behavior was
supposed to allow XEmacs to exit quietly. That it doesn't suggests
that there's poorly understood behavior in there.
Finally, there are any number of "session management" utilities
(desktop.el, session.el, etc) that allow you to keep state across
XEmacs invocations.
Ie, if some hacker wants to make a hobby of this, fine. We'll look at
the patches, and do what we can to help. But nobody here wants to
open the can and start "worm farming." ;-)
That's pretty much where I stand on it, anyway.
--
Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp
University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
Ask not how you can "do" free software business;
ask what your business can "do for" free software.
5:39 a.m.
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Holmlund
<jim.holmlund(a)sun.com> writes:
Jim> Ok, thanks for the info. If any developer has the time to
Jim> tell me, I wouldn't mind hearing why he/she doesn't think
Jim> [xemacs as a server waiting for gnuclient] is desirable.
The only opposition I know of is to committing one's own time to it.
It doesn't look like an easy problem. Most users seem to really want
XEmacs to exit when they log out. Admins don't like processes that
don't go away, and might very well contain data the user wants to
save, but they don't know. XEmacs can use up big hunks of VM; even if
it's swapped out, that's not desirable. So we need to find ways to
make that configurable, preferably at run time.
AFAIK gnuserv connections aren't really first class citizens; XEmacs
has to connect to some device. This means that it may be necessary to
fiddle with the event loop. The crash that you observe suggests that
this is so; the patch that stopped the Energizer bunny behavior was
supposed to allow XEmacs to exit quietly. That it doesn't suggests
that there's poorly understood behavior in there.
Finally, there are any number of "session management" utilities
(desktop.el, session.el, etc) that allow you to keep state across
XEmacs invocations.
Ie, if some hacker wants to make a hobby of this, fine. We'll look at
the patches, and do what we can to help. But nobody here wants to
open the can and start "worm farming." ;-)
That's pretty much where I stand on it, anyway.
Thanks for the info. I'll look into those session mgmt utilities.
BTW, I love xemacs - you people are doing a great job!
I basically do everything in it at Sun, (well, ok, I usually use
netscape for browsing), and at home I run it on my windows machine
with cygwin shell buffers and it basically works the same way.
Keep up the good work!
- jjh
--
Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp
University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
Ask not how you can "do" free software business;
ask what your business can "do for" free software.
9:02 a.m.
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
XEmacs can use up big hunks of VM; even if it's swapped out,
that's
not desirable.
if a few hundred kb more are not a problem...
AFAIK gnuserv connections aren't really first class citizens;
XEmacs
has to connect to some device.
... one could
1. start xemacs in a "screen session"
% screen xemacs -nw -f gnuserv-start
2. immediately detach from the session (usually it's C-a d), and
3. use gnuclient, that usually does the right thing (X vs tty-wise)
yes, it's a workaround, but, as Steven said, as long as xemacs is
connected to some device, everybody's happy
gb
ps: i heard that similar tricks are possible using vnc, too...
4:03 a.m.
giacomo boffi <giacomo.boffi(a)polimi.it> writes:
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> XEmacs can use up big hunks of VM; even if it's swapped out, that's
> not desirable.
if a few hundred kb more are not a problem...
> AFAIK gnuserv connections aren't really first class citizens; XEmacs
> has to connect to some device.
Since posting my problem to the debian bug tracking system, and
discovering this is evidently a FAQ...
... one could
1. start xemacs in a "screen session"
% screen xemacs -nw -f gnuserv-start
That's a nifty workaround which I have been using for a few weeks. I
tried the -unmapped one first, but when gnuserv crashed one day, and
the xemacs process stayed alive, I thought it would be nice to be able
to reconncect to xemacs and tell it to start gnuserv once again -
hence using screen
2. immediately detach from the session (usually it's C-a d), and
Or just use:
screen -m -d /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs -nw -f gnuserv-start
But it is only a workaround, and when one of the clients die, it kills
them all. I'll see what I can code up, but I do know nothing about X,
and littel about elisp :)
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