rpgoldman> Actually, it turns out that this doesn't work, either. rpgoldman> I tried this and M-x report-xemacs-bug wasn't there. rpgoldman> Adrian reports that it comes in the net-utils package, rpgoldman> which seems not to be in efs or xemacs-base (or I did rpgoldman> something wrong). So this didn't work for me, rpgoldman> either.... Urk. That's bad; we need to fix that, too. Minimal bug reporting functionality should be in core! Thanks, again. rpgoldman> Yes, I did. The Mandrake-distributed RPM doesn't rpgoldman> properly do package updates, because of something funny rpgoldman> in its efs. They probably have a Kerberos-enabled FTP client. Add the Kerberos- defeating flag to `efs-ftp-program-args' (usually it's "-g" IIRC). For Mandrake, site-start.el is a good place, I think. (Rather than default.el. If you use a session manager like desktop.el, then your init.el may try to access remote files before default.el gets loaded.) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py

SY> |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: SJT> Urk. That's bad; we need to fix that, too. Minimal bug SJT> reporting functionality should be in core! Thanks, again. SY> I whole heartily agree. And unless somebody beats me to it (hint hint SY> hint), I'll see what I can do about it in a couple of week's time. [applause from the audience sets in and trampling of the feet swallows it] -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/