Good evening! Myself and Mats accidentally went off-list with this discussion. In summary of what we said there: -- Mats didn’t see any immediate benefit with my patch. He saw the problems he described earlier in isearch in Gnus Summary buffers and in isearches in dired, and a distinct set of problems in isearches in Gnus Article buffers. -- I managed to reproduce his dired and Gnus summary problem when I switched to a German layout (rather than my modified Irish layout), where ä and ö have keys to themselves). This can be avoided with a nil value for try-alternate-layout-for-commands, and I now think that only language environments with non-Latin scripts should have a non-nil default for this variable. -- Mats still has the distinct set of problems in isearches in Gnus Article buffers, which I have yet to reproduce. (Am renewing my news.individual.net subscription to that end.) Mats is curious about the need for try-alternate-layouts-for-commands, so here’s an attempt to explain what it does; for people in Russia or Greece, the keyboard by default doesn’t generate Roman-alphabet characters. So it’s actually comparatively a lot of work to type control f or control b. Not *so* much of an issue for GUI programs, but much more of an issue for XEmacs. If try-alternate-layouts-for-commands is non-nil, and command lookup is about to fail (that is, a message like “C-ь C-ф not defined” would normally be shown), XEmacs pretends for a second that the keyboard has a US layout, works out that C-ь C-ф would correspond to C-x C-f on that, and calls #'find-file interactively. It comes into play in isearch because of the rewriting of commands that #'isearch-pre-command-hook does in order to add characters that would normally self-insert to the search string. Best, Aidan Ar an dara lá déag de mí Márta, scríobh Aidan Kehoe: -- “Apart from the nine-banded armadillo, man is the only natural host of Mycobacterium leprae, although it can be grown in the footpads of mice.” -- Kumar & Clark, Clinical Medicine, summarising improbable leprosy research _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta