This whole 21.0 business concerns me. Hrvoje> Vin Shelton <acs(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: Hrvoje> 21.0 has been released AFAIK. I've seen it released with my own eyes Hrvoje> (literally). I don't know why it's still labeled beta. Steve, bug or Hrvoje> feature? Bug, I'd say. Hrvoje> It was on xemacs-announce. There has been no announcement on comp.emacs.xemacs, and the web page still says 20.4. All the discussion about binary kits and the 21.0 release has raised far more questions than provided answers. What *is* the release strategy for the future? What status will 21.0 have? How will we deal with binary kits. I'm sure you guys thought up something in Japan, but it sure hasn't hit xemacs-beta yet. For what it's worth, I think the following should be done: 1. Scratch the beta label from 21.0.67 and call the result 21.0. (If feature freeze on 21.0 didn't last long enough for something better than a beta, I don't know what all.) 2. Create binary kits. (For what that's worth, we really need to do kits for AIX, for example, where the resources required to do the build yourself are just too great for many people.) 3. Announce on www.xemacs.org and comp.emacs.org. For 21.1.x, let's create binary kits at leisure. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla