Yo, Mike! Is this about right? Andrew> Where is the accepted place to put these expressions? the Andrew> site-lisp/site-packages etc directories are apparently Andrew> deprecated, site-lisp is deprecated in _favor_ of site-packages. If code is going to be packaged, but you always want it run, you can autoload arbitrary expressions. Andrew> and my code isn't a package (and doesn't really want to Andrew> be). It's not the code that decides whether something should be a package. Any Lisp code can (and should, if you want to install it more than once) be packaged. [n.b. We have fallen down by not providing a simple packaging function that takes a few lisp libraries and generates a trivial package from them.] I suppose that's what you meant (ie, it's site-specific, so probably won't be installed anywhere else, and it's trivial, so not going to be installed on your site more than once)? Andrew> I don't want to put it in every user's .xemacs/init.el Andrew> files... There are two files. One is "site-start.el" which is loaded before the user init files, and can be inhibited only by using --no-site-files (or switches that imply it). The other is "default.el", which is loaded after the user init files, and can be inhibited on a per-user basis by setq'ing `inhibit-default-init' in the user init file. Hm.... In the old model, these would naturally live in site-lisp. There used to be sample versions in the source ./lisp directory, but they were eliminated in 1998. I guess now the suggested location would be in .../site-packages/lisp/site-config/ or something like that. Mike? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.