[ This is a Mail mode bug. --kyle ] This is not a new problem; I noticed it previously with 6.63. Problem: VM writes to the FCC outgoing mail file even when sending the message fails. I think the correct behavior (to be an accurate record of what was actually sent) should be that it only gets written if the mail was successfully sent. Example: I am always running out of memory since I generally have 2 mail files open, each 10-30 MB large. When this happens, I occasionally get "Can't fork: bad file number" error when trying to get new mail, send mail, or open a new buffer. This happens until I increase my swap space, kill one of the large mail buffers, or kill other system processes. But that's a different problem I have to cope with... In any case, when I try to send a mail message in this situation, it fails with the above error, but still appends it to my folder specified in the FCC header. If I then try to clear up some memory and resend, it gets written to the folder again with a different timestamp and message ID. I think it should wait until it successfully sends it before writing to the FCC file. Thanks, jfw Emacs : XEmacs 20.4 "Emerald" [Lucid] (sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1) of Thu Aug 27 1998 on jwhitehe-sun Package: VM 6.72 current state: ============== (setq vm-arrived-message-hook nil vm-arrived-messages-hook nil vm-auto-center-summary nil vm-auto-decode-mime-messages t vm-auto-displayed-mime-content-type-exceptions nil vm-auto-displayed-mime-content-types '("image" "image/gif" "image/jpeg" "message" "multipart" "text/enriched" "text/plain") vm-auto-folder-case-fold-search nil vm-auto-get-new-mail nil vm-auto-next-message t vm-berkeley-mail-compatibility nil vm-check-folder-types t vm-circular-folders nil vm-confirm-new-folders nil vm-confirm-quit 0 vm-convert-folder-types t vm-crash-box "~/mail/Misc.CRASH" vm-crash-box-suffix nil vm-default-From_-folder-type 'From_ vm-default-folder-type 'From_-with-Content-Length vm-delete-after-archiving nil vm-delete-after-bursting t vm-delete-after-saving nil vm-delete-empty-folders t vm-digest-burst-type "guess" vm-digest-identifier-header-format "X-Digest: %s\n" vm-digest-center-preamble t vm-digest-preamble-format "\"%s\" (%F)" vm-digest-send-type "mime" vm-display-buffer-hook nil vm-display-using-mime t vm-edit-message-hook nil vm-edit-message-mode 'text-mode vm-fill-paragraphs-containing-long-lines 80 vm-flush-interval 90 vm-folder-directory "~/mail/" vm-folder-read-only nil vm-follow-summary-cursor t vm-forward-message-hook nil vm-forwarded-headers nil vm-forwarding-digest-type "mime" vm-forwarding-subject-format "Fwd: [%F] %s" vm-frame-parameter-alist nil vm-frame-per-completion t vm-frame-per-composition t vm-frame-per-edit t vm-frame-per-folder t vm-frame-per-help nil vm-frame-per-summary nil vm-highlight-url-face 'bold vm-highlighted-header-regexp "^\\(From:\\|Subject:\\)" vm-honor-page-delimiters nil vm-image-directory "/usr/local/lib/xemacs-20.4/etc/vm/" vm-imap-bytes-per-session nil vm-imap-expunge-after-retrieving t vm-imap-max-message-size nil vm-imap-messages-per-session nil vm-in-reply-to-format "%i" vm-included-text-attribution-format "%F writes:\n" vm-included-text-discard-header-regexp nil vm-included-text-headers nil vm-included-text-prefix " > " vm-index-file-suffix ".index" vm-init-file "~/.vm" vm-infer-mime-types nil vm-invisible-header-regexp "^\\(A1-type:\\|Admin:\\|Alternate-recipient:\\|Approved-By:\\|Autoforwarded:\\|Content-Disposition:\\|Content-Identifier:\\|Content-Length:\\|Content-Transfer-Encoding:\\|Content-Type:\\|Errors-To:\\|Hop-count:\\|Importance:\\|In-Reply-To:\\|Lines:\\|List-\\|Message-ID:\\|MIME-Version:\\|MR-Received:\\|NNTP-Posting-Host:\\|Organi[sz]ation:\\|Original-Encoded-Information-Types:\\|Path:\\|Posting-date:\\|Precedence:\\|Priority:\\|Received:\\|References:\\|Reply-to:\\|Resent-Date:\\|Resent-From:\\|Resent-Message-ID:\\|Return-Path:\\|Resent-Sender:\\|Sender:\\|Sensitivity:\\|Status:\\|Summary:\\|UA-content-id:\\|X-AIGTO:\\|X-AirNote:\\|X-Attachments:\\|X-Comment:\\|X-Face:\\|X-Imperative:\\|X-Mailer:\\|X-MIME-Autoconverted:\\|X-EFF_\\|X-Loop:\\|X-Lotus-\\|X-Mailing-List:\\|X-MimeOle:\\|X-MS-\\|X-MSMail-\\|X-OpenMail-Hops:\\|X-Organization:\\|X-PGPKey-URL:\\|X-Phone:\\|X-Planation:\\|X-Priority:\\|X-Procc?essed-By:\\|X-SB\\|X-Sender:\\|X-SMAP-Received-F! ! ! rom:\\|X-Spam\\|X-Sun-Charset:\\|X-VM-\\|X-Zippy-Sez:\\|X400-\\|Xref:\\)" vm-jump-to-new-messages t vm-jump-to-unread-messages t vm-keep-crash-boxes "/tmp" vm-keep-sent-messages t vm-mail-header-from nil vm-mail-header-insert-date t vm-mail-header-insert-message-id t vm-mail-hook nil vm-make-crash-box-name nil vm-make-spool-file-name nil vm-mail-check-interval 300 vm-mail-mode-hook nil vm-mime-7bit-composition-charset "us-ascii" vm-mime-8bit-composition-charset "iso-8859-1" vm-mime-8bit-text-transfer-encoding 'quoted-printable vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'best-internal vm-mime-attachment-auto-type-alist '(("\\.jpe?g$" . "image/jpeg") ("\\.gif$" . "image/gif") ("\\.png$" . "image/png") ("\\.tiff?$" . "image/tiff") ("\\.html?$" . "text/html") ("\\.au$" . "audio/basic") ("\\.mpe?g$" . "video/mpeg") ("\\.ps$" . "application/postscript")) vm-mime-attachment-save-directory "~/mail/attachments/" vm-mime-avoid-folding-content-type t vm-mime-base64-decoder-program "mimencode" vm-mime-base64-decoder-switches '("-u") vm-mime-base64-encoder-program "mimencode" vm-mime-base64-encoder-switches nil vm-mime-button-format-alist '(("text" . "%-35.35(%d, %c%) [%k to %a]") ("multipart/alternative" . "%-35.35(%d%) [%k to %a]") ("multipart/digest" . "%-35.35(%d, %n message%s%) [%k to %a]") ("multipart" . "%-35.35(%d, %n part%s%) [%k to %a]") ("message/partial" . "%-35.35(%d, part %N (of %T)%) [%k to %a]") ("message" . "%-35.35(%d%) [%k to %a]") ("audio" . "%-35.35(%d%) [%k to %a]") ("video" . "%-35.35(%d%) [%k to %a]") ("image" . "%-35.35(%d%) [%k to %a]") ("application/octet-stream" . "%-35.35(%d, %f%) [%k to %a]") ) vm-mime-button-face 'gui-button-face vm-mime-charset-font-alist nil vm-mime-default-face-charsets '("us-ascii" "iso-8859-1" "iso-8859-2" "windows-1252") vm-mime-digest-discard-header-regexp nil vm-mime-digest-headers '("Resent-" "From:" "Sender:" "To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Date:" "Message-ID:" "Keywords:" "MIME-Version:" "Content-") vm-mime-display-function nil vm-mime-external-content-types-alist '(("application/pdf" "acroread") ("image" "xv") ("text/html" "netscape -remote 'openURL(file://%f)'") ("video" "xanim")) vm-mime-ignore-mime-version t vm-mime-internal-content-type-exceptions nil vm-mime-internal-content-types t vm-mime-max-message-size nil vm-mime-type-converter-alist '(("application/msword" "text/plain" "catdoc -" "text/html" "text/plain" "cat") ) vm-mode-hook nil vm-mode-hooks nil vm-mosaic-program "Mosaic" vm-mosaic-program-switches nil vm-move-after-deleting t vm-move-after-undeleting nil vm-move-after-killing t vm-move-messages-physically nil vm-movemail-program "movemail" vm-mutable-frames t vm-mutable-windows t vm-netscape-program "netscape" vm-netscape-program-switches nil vm-pop-bytes-per-session nil vm-pop-expunge-after-retrieving t vm-pop-max-message-size nil vm-pop-messages-per-session nil vm-pop-md5-program "md5" vm-popup-menu-on-mouse-3 t vm-preferences-file "~/.vm.preferences" vm-preview-lines nil vm-preview-read-messages nil vm-primary-inbox "INTERNAL" vm-quit-hook nil vm-recognize-imap-maildrops "^imap:[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+" vm-recognize-pop-maildrops "^[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+:[^:]+" vm-reply-hook nil vm-reply-ignored-reply-tos nil vm-reply-subject-prefix "Re: " vm-resend-bounced-discard-header-regexp nil vm-resend-bounced-headers '("MIME-Version:" "Content-" "From:" "Sender:" "Reply-To:" "To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Newsgroups:" "In-Reply-To:" "References:" "Keywords:" "X-") vm-resend-bounced-message-hook nil vm-resend-discard-header-regexp "\\(\\(X400-\\)?Received:\\|Resent-\\)" vm-resend-headers nil vm-resend-message-hook nil vm-retrieved-spooled-mail-hook nil vm-rfc1153-digest-discard-header-regexp "\\(X400-\\)?Received:" vm-rfc1153-digest-headers '("Resent-" "Date:" "From:" "Sender:" "To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Message-ID:" "Keywords:") vm-rfc934-digest-discard-header-regexp nil vm-rfc934-digest-headers '("Resent-" "From:" "Sender:" "To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Date:" "Message-ID:" "Keywords:") vm-search-using-regexps nil vm-select-message-hook '(bbdb/vm-update-record) vm-select-new-message-hook nil vm-select-unread-message-hook nil vm-send-digest-hook nil vm-send-using-mime t vm-skip-deleted-messages t vm-skip-read-messages nil vm-spool-file-suffixes nil vm-startup-with-summary 1 vm-strip-reply-headers nil vm-summary-format "%n %*%a %-22.22UB %-3.3m%2d %I\"%s\"\n" vm-summary-highlight-face 'bold vm-summary-mode-hook nil vm-summary-mode-hooks nil vm-summary-redo-hook nil vm-summary-show-threads nil vm-summary-thread-indent-level 1 vm-summary-uninteresting-senders-arrow "To: " vm-tale-is-an-idiot nil vm-temp-file-directory "/tmp" vm-thread-using-subject t vm-toolbar-pixmap-directory "/usr/local/lib/xemacs-20.4/etc/vm/" vm-trust-From_-with-Content-Length t vm-undisplay-buffer-hook '(vm-delete-buffer-frame) vm-unforwarded-header-regexp "only-drop-this-header" vm-url-browser 'vm-mouse-send-url-to-netscape vm-url-search-limit 20000 vm-use-menus '(folder motion send mark label sort virtual undo dispose emacs nil help) vm-use-toolbar '(next previous delete/undelete autofile file reply compose print visit quit nil help) vm-virtual-folder-alist '(("EXTERNAL Unfiled" (("EXTERNAL") (not (virtual-folder-member)))) ("INTERNAL Unfiled" (("INTERNAL") (not (virtual-folder-member)))) ) vm-virtual-mirror t vm-visible-headers '("From:" "Subject:" "Date:" "To:") vm-visit-folder-hook nil vm-visit-when-saving 0 vm-warp-mouse-to-new-frame nil vm-window-configuration-file "~/.vm.windows" features '(reporter bbdb-com mail-abbrevs sendmail vm-reply vm-search lazy-lock hyper-apropos pp vm-sort vm-minibuf vm-macro vm-delete vm-undo highlight-headers bbdb-hooks mail-extr mail-utils vm-page vm-mime vm-summary vm-save tapestry vm-motion vm-toolbar vm-message vm-menu vm-folder vc-hooks vm-misc vm-mouse vm-window my-virtual-folders bbdb-sc sc-header-jfw-rmail supercite regi bbdb-vm vm-autoload vm-vars vm-startup vm-version vm bbdb t timezone filladapt time rsz-minibuf func-menu font-lock crypt crypt++ completer auto-save view-less view default-dir efs-cu efs-x19\.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-auto cus-face dired-faces dired-xemacs dired x11-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads vc-autoloads utils-autoloads tm-autoloads tl-autoloads rmail-autoloads psgml-autoloads prim-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads packages-autoloads modes-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mel-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads iso-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads eterm-autoloads emulators-autoloads electric-autoloads efs-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads custom-autoloads comint-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads bytecomp-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads auto-show fontl-hooks ediff-hook x-iso8859-1 x-menubar mouse mode-motion itimer lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule derived frame text-props cus-start custom widget cl-autoloads cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote tooltalk lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars xpm gif motif-dialogs x tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menubar dbm md5 xemacs lisp-float-type usg-unix-v dialog window-system c-balloon-help) ) -- john f whitehead email jfw(a)cisco.com i t advanced technology voice 408-527-2809 cisco systems inc pager 800-365-4578