KMH> What if XEmacs could display using TeX fonts? John> that makes me want to cry, it's so beautiful... Yes, it is. I could not get its menus to work... Hope that's fixed with the move to `guile-gtk' they mention. I'm glad my mail about it wasn't wasted; I told someone about something they'd not heard of yet. :-) Hope the redisplay redesigners / recoders find the TeX font stuff doable... I have no way of knowing whether that's anything more than a "pipe dream".