That's wonderful news! Congratulations, Andy! BP's family picnic sounds like a fine idea. Please be sure to pick Becky, Noah and me up on your way to the midwest. - vin Andy> ... arrived 3.31am BST, 9lbs 1oz. Andy> I expect my hacking time to be severely limited from now on. I will do my Andy> best to fix the delete-frame and delete-other-windows however. Andy> andy Andy> -------------------------------------------------------------- Andy> Dr Andy Piper Andy> Principal Consultant, BEA Systems Ltd