I noticed the same thing. Try setting your "download site" to "xemacs.org"; the newer versions of these packages are up there. -lipp -----Original Message----- From: Latchezar M. Dimitrov [mailto:lmdimi＠mthcsc.wfu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:28 PM To: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org Subject: experimental packages missing Would you please upload the following missing experimental packages since they are listed in the packages-index: * xemacs-base 1.49 1.48 Fundamental XEmacs support, you almost certainly need this. * vm 1.28 1.26 An Emacs mailer. * mew 1.14 1.13 Messaging in an Emacs World. * gnus 1.54 1.53 The Gnus Newsreader and Mailreader. Thanks Latchezar (Latcho) Dimitrov Wake Forest University, Winston-Salem, NC home: (336) 794-2094 grad.lab: (336) 758-4954 mailto:dimi01g＠wfu.edu or http://www.wfu.edu/~dimil01g/ lmdimi(a)mthcsc.wfu.edu ... Type fast, think slow. ... "Hippocratic Oath For Software Engineers"