Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch&gt; writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: ... It should not be ditched. It is not subject to any of the whims and badness that Usenet is subject to. It is possible to subscribe xemacs(a)xemacs.org to it the same way xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org is subscribed to it. I've resisted doing this for various reasons, but it is perhaps the best thing to do now. I am leery of separating CVS components and we do not have a CVS server running on www.xemacs.org. Maybe the thing to do is move the webpages to cvs.xemacs.org and automatically mirror a checked out copy to the webserver. Anyone interested in putting the scripts together to do this? The package distribution problem is serious, but fixable and I'm working on it.