On 17 Dec 2006, nix(a)esperi.org.uk verbalised: It isn't KKCC. I've built an Emacs without newgc and --without-kkcc. At boot: RSS VSZ 76043 82104 Yet half an hour later, after reading 500-odd posts on the spamassassin mailing list in Gnus: RSS VSZ 275404 287840 Half of this appears unused. I'm going to get some stats out of malloc() next, to see if arena fragmentation is at fault. (show-memory-usage) 110106054 charset from-unicode to-unicode total ------------------------------------------------------------ chinese-cns11643-5 512 512 1024 indian-2-column 512 512 1024 arabic-1-column 512 512 1024 tibetan-1-column 512 512 1024 japanese-jisx0213-1 512 512 1024 arabic-digit 512 512 1024 thai-xtis 512 512 1024 ascii-right-to-left 512 512 1024 composite 512 512 1024 chinese-cns11643-4 512 512 1024 latin-iso8859-1 512 512 1024 indian-1-column 512 512 1024 chinese-isoir165 512 512 1024 latin-iso8859-13 512 512 1024 chinese-cns11643-3 512 512 1024 arabic-2-column 512 512 1024 chinese-cns11643-7 524 512 1036 japanese-jisx0208-1978 524 512 1036 japanese-jisx0213-2 512 524 1036 chinese-cns11643-6 524 524 1048 ascii 1024 512 1536 control-1 1024 524 1548 thai-tis620 2048 512 2560 latin-jisx0201 2048 512 2560 katakana-jisx0201 2048 512 2560 indian-is13194 2060 512 2572 latin-iso8859-9 2060 512 2572 arabic-iso8859-6 2060 512 2572 lao 2060 512 2572 latin-iso8859-14 2560 512 3072 vietnamese-viscii-lower 2560 512 3072 latin-iso8859-15 2560 512 3072 vietnamese-viscii-upper 2560 512 3072 latin-iso8859-2 2560 512 3072 latin-iso8859-4 2572 512 3084 latin-iso8859-3 2572 512 3084 cyrillic-iso8859-5 2572 512 3084 greek-iso8859-7 2572 512 3084 hebrew-iso8859-8 2596 512 3108 latin-iso8859-16 3072 512 3584 ipa 3072 524 3596 tibetan 2048 2060 4108 chinese-sisheng 3596 512 4108 ethiopic 2560 3084 5644 jit-ucs-charset-0 5144 1036 6180 japanese-jisx0212 46224 35460 81684 chinese-cns11643-1 50832 33900 84732 chinese-big5-1 51308 34352 85660 chinese-cns11643-2 43616 42592 86208 chinese-big5-2 44200 42592 86792 japanese-jisx0208 48796 40020 88816 chinese-gb2312 50880 42092 92972 korean-ksc5601 75504 46248 121752 total 483244 344988 828232 buffer text markers extents other total -------------------------------------------------------------------- *substitute* 32 72 0 1024 1128 *Original Article nnml: 32 72 0 1024 1128 *Article nnml:Mailbox* 32 72 0 1024 1128 info.notes 32 120 0 1024 1176 *balloon-help* 32 360 0 1024 1416 *Echo Area* 2060 72 0 1024 3156 *urlparse* 2060 72 0 1024 3156 *mimeparse* 2060 72 0 1024 3156 *Compile-Log* 2060 72 0 1036 3168 *Warnings* 2048 96 0 1036 3180 *Hyper Apropos* 2048 120 0 1024 3192 diary 2060 120 0 1024 3204 *BBDB* 2060 480 0 1024 3564 *Tree* 2060 624 0 1024 3708 *scratch* 2060 1392 0 1024 4476 *Compile-Log-Show* 4108 72 0 1024 5204 *canonical address* 4108 72 0 1024 5204 *extract address compon 4108 72 0 1024 5204 *split* 4108 72 0 1036 5216 tracking 4108 120 0 1024 5252 gms 4108 120 0 1024 5252 food-to-get 4108 120 0 1024 5252 motd-fragment 4108 120 0 1024 5252 cleaning 4108 120 0 1036 5264 gc-logs 4108 132 0 1024 5264 status-scan 4108 144 0 1024 5276 internal-stats 4108 144 0 1036 5288 TODO.tellico 4108 144 0 1036 5288 auto-mark 4108 144 0 1036 5288 auto-mark.el 4108 168 0 1024 5300 memory-usage 4108 672 0 1024 5804 *Minibuf-0* 2060 2736 0 1024 5820 *gnus work* 8216 72 0 1024 9312 to-build 8216 144 0 1024 9384 booklist 8216 144 0 1024 9384 TODO 8216 144 0 1024 9384 stuff 8216 144 0 1024 9384 *Summary nnml:Mailbox* 8216 480 0 1024 9720 *memory usage* 12324 72 0 1024 13420 highlight-occur.el 12324 168 0 1024 13516 *Group* 12324 336 0 1036 13696 *w3m cache* 16432 72 0 1024 17528 snaptree 16432 168 0 1024 17624 immstool.cc 16432 168 0 1024 17624 backtrace.h 20540 156 0 1024 21720 *Async Prefetch Article 24648 72 0 1024 25744 *server news.srvr.nix n 24648 96 0 1024 25768 *Message-Log* 32864 72 0 1024 33960 *Completions* 32864 72 0 1024 33960 *info tag table* 32864 96 0 1024 33984 *server news.srvr.nix n 53404 96 0 1024 54524 *Original Article nnml: 61620 72 0 1024 62716 .newsrc-dribble 65728 72 0 1024 66824 *Article nnml:spamassass 65728 1272 0 1024 68024 *Summary nnml:spamassass 82160 1032 0 1024 84216 *pixmap conversion* 86268 72 0 1024 87364 DESIGN 86268 144 0 1024 87436 *Gnus Backlog* 139672 72 0 1024 140768 *server news.srvr.nix n 147888 84 0 1024 148996 *info* 312208 168 0 1024 313400 .bbdb 1109160 110136 0 1024 1220320 *nntpd* 3956004 1032 0 1024 3958060 total 6558624 125916 0 63584 6748124 window face-cache glyph-cache scrollbar-instances line-start-cache other-redisplay other total --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #<window on " *Minibuf-0 8248 32 0 32 64 1088 9464 #<window on " *Minibuf-0 8248 32 0 32 64 1088 9464 #<window on " *balloon-h 8248 160 0 32 64 1088 9592 #<window on " *balloon-h 8248 160 0 32 64 1088 9592 #<window on " *balloon-h 8248 160 224 160 7408 1100 17300 #<window on " *Minibuf-0 12356 160 0 160 18940 1088 32704 #<window on " *Minibuf-0 12356 160 0 160 27144 1088 40908 #<window on " *Minibuf-0 12356 160 0 160 27144 1088 40908 #<window on "*Tree*" 0x3 12356 288 224 300 84016 1088 98272 #<window on "*BBDB*" 0x3 16464 288 224 160 95176 1088 113400 #<window on "*Summary nn 16464 288 224 4140 202084 1088 224288 #<window on "*scratch*" 24680 544 224 4140 557704 1088 588380 #<window on "*Summary nn 37004 288 224 2080 977720 1088 1018404 #<window on "*Article nn 57608 288 224 4140 1019768 1088 1083116 total 242884 3008 1568 15728 3017360 15244 3295792 object storage ---------------------------------------- bigfloat 0 ratio 0 free 0 opaque-ptr 16 bit-vector 16 range-table 20 case-table 32 command-builder 52 timeout 80 charset 184 device 360 scrollbar-instance 448 console 464 window-mirror 780 lcrecord-list 912 symbol-value-varalias 952 color-instance 1316 process 1680 frame 1740 stream 2196 coding-system 2504 font-instance 4656 gui-item 5696 glyph 6556 window 7176 image-instance 11264 face 14592 symbol-value-buffer-local 17244 extent-info 17760 keymap 22520 weak-list 62736 buffer 72000 hash-table 93120 extent-auxiliary 102200 char-table 108472 long-strings-total-length 148366 specifier 151036 char-table-entry 263736 opaque 290444 compiled-function 442104 bignum 734996 symbol 1273412 event 1458288 vector 1540632 marker 2483460 short-string 5677056 extent 8609792 string-header 11073804 float 11689636 cons 52837400 total 99233906 grand total: 110106054 -- `He accused the FSF of being "something of a hypocrit", which shows that he neither understands hypocrisy nor can spell.' --- jimmybgood _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

Ar an t-ochtú lá déag de mí na Nollaig, scríobh Stephen J. Turnbull: Nix seems to use XFT builds primarily right now. I see the same behaviour on a non-KKCC build with server-side fonts--my solution so far has been: derrick [ cat ~/bin/unlimited-xemacs #!/usr/pkg/bin/zsh ulimit -d unlimited ulimit -c unlimited exec /usr/local/bin/xemacs $* but that’s a long way from being the Right Thing. On the TTY build I normally use for reading mail, it leaks, but not as badly: VSZ RSZ 44604 39m with 20078197 as the show-memory-usage output. (I have an RSS ulimit of 46080K there, however, so opening a decent-size mailbox gives me an out-of-memory error.) This means the leaking is not X11 specific. I don’t use KKCC in general, because it has been less responsive for me than the old GC. If I remember correctly, however, its summaries of memory usage were more accurate, to some extent. -- When I was in the scouts, the leader told me to pitch a tent. I couldn't find any pitch, so I used creosote. _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta