BAW> Seems like this does what I want, but it also seems to load BAW> several packages more than once (like vm and mail-lib), or am I BAW> hallucinating? I sent a patch many moons ago to fix this problem. In some sense packge-get-update-all does not currently do the right thing. It uses package-get-all which fetches dependent packages. This is bad since someone may intentionally not have a certain package even though it is declared as required by a package they do have (e.g., vm is not really needed to use efs). Fetching of dependent packages should be done at the time a user initially gets a package. So, packge-get-update-all should use package-get in place of package-get-all (works like package-get-all, but it does not also get dependent packages). If a dependent package requires updating, that will still be picked up. Moreover, by making this change, we would fix the problem of getting some packages many times when using package-get-update-all. John Jones --------------------------------------------------------------- Department of Mathematics Office: PSA 729 Arizona State University Phone: 965-3725 Tempe, AZ 85287-1804 FAX: 965-8119 URL: http://math.la.asu.edu/~jj e-mail: JJ(a)asu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------