SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: Will you be accepting patches to bring the menus back? With vc.el it really is a problem. The current menu structure assumes it has most of the stuff in vc-hooks.el present to autodetect the state. I understand one of the reasons for the whole exercise was not to have all that stuff present? Or is it OK that as long a package is present it hooks itself in through the auto-loads file... [*] May be just a "VC" menu with an initial "load VC hooks" entry would be the best solution? Jan P.S I am partial to [*] because I want everything that can be enabled automatically to work without user intervention. However there current is not a mechanism to prevent a package from loading if it is present. (This would happen when the sysadmins have installed the vc package but the user hates it).