Sean MacLennan writes: I use bitstream vera sans mono-14 on an IBook G4. Gives a 32x80 main editing window which is full-height and 2/3 width (1024x768px screen, less about 100 vertical pixels for Max OS menubar, wm decorations, and XEmacs menubar, toolbar, and tabs). If you spell "disabled" B-R-O-K-E-N, yes. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The people who voted in favor of including Xft in the main distribution didn't seem to think this matters. "Patches welcome":-( Yes, expected. If you configured with "--with-xft=menubars,...", you have to use the fcFontName resource. Also, I don't think our Xft code understands XLFDs. (I don't recall if that's a limitation of Xft or of our code.) You need to use the Xft/fontconfig-style names. Try "XEmacs*menubar.fcFontName: Bitstream Charter-8:Bold". _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta