Re: Why using (push-mark) ?

Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com&gt; writes: Maybe it is logical with respect to the knowledge you have of the technical details of the ring implementation. How many users do you think have this knowledge, and how many of them do you think should know the technical details to be "allowed" to use XEmacs ? So what !? All new users of XEmacs begin with being "ignorant". Now if you have to be an _experimented_ user to begin finding things logical, then I can assure you that the number of new users is not going to increase by a lot in the future. Neither to your ignorance or lack of interest in ergonomics concerns. beginning-of-buffer and end-of-buffer are commands to move in the buffer. The other commands like next-line previous-line and even BEGINNING-OF-line and END-OF-line preserve the mark, but not those 2 ones. I admit that a different behavior might be usefull in the case of long moves, but I don't think this should be the default. If *you* want a different behavior at a certain time, *you* type more stuff to get what you want. Not the other way around. Being experimented means knowing which "more stuff" to type, not the other way around. Ahah !! No, really Kyle, I hardly believe you can seriously raise this argument. You might have forgotten a smiley or something ! I can image the manual or the tutorial about this: | XEmacs provides commands to move in a buffer. The most important ones are: | - C-f (forward-char) | - C-b (backward-char) | - C-n (next-line) | - C-p (previous-line) | - C-a (beginning-of-line) | - C-e (end-of-line) | - M-< (beginning-of-buffer) | - M-> (end-of-buffer) | | [ ... ] | | After you have set the mark with C-SPACE, you can move around in the buffer | with the functions detailed above to select a region. Those functions | preserve the mark. | | Note: M-< and M-> are exceptions. If you want to preserve the mark, please | type M-< C-x C-x C-u C-SPC or M-> C-x C-x C-u C-SPC And then the reader's reaction: "this software is brain damadged". And he will be right. -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / E.N.S.T. INF C201.1 mailto:verna＠inf.enst.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 46 rue Barrault Tel. (33) 01 45 81 73 46 75634 Paris cedex 13 Fax. (33) 01 45 81 31 19