Hans de Graaff <graaff(a)gentoo.org> writes:
I'm finding that I'm increasingly less motivated to report
issues, bug
fixes, and patches that are coming out of maintenance of XEmacs for
Gentoo. I think that this is mainly caused by the lack of a bug tracker,
so I'll present the case for one and end by asking why there isn't one
currently, whether one is wanted, and what steps are needed to make this
happen.
Hello Hans, I'm with you.
For me providing patches to XEmacs is really a fire-and-forget thing. I
send out the message, maybe something happens, maybe not, depending on
interestingness and availability, and if nothing happens in a short
period of time the work is essentially lost. Other people won't be able
to easily search for it, comment on it, or amend it. It also makes
tracking fixes much harder than it would need to be. Having a single
reference to a bug report or patch makes it a lot easier to keep an eye
on progress and help things along if needed.
I agree completely.
I also feel that the lack of a bug tracker is holding back growth of
XEmacs development. Helping out with filling bugs, commenting on bugs,
testing patches, providing fixes for easy problems and progressing to
more complex work is a natural way to attract new people to the
development team, but without a place to work on it this is much less
likely to happen. A set of mailing lists is really a very poor
substitute for such a workflow.
Looking at
http://www.xemacs.org/Debug/index.html it seems that there is
latent interest in having a bug tracker in place, given the comment at
the bottom. So, my questions:
Yep, I wrote the above in that web page.
Is a bug tracker still wanted?
Yes.
Has any work been done on this already?
Stephen has looked into this most.
How currently out of touch, but I guess we will comment when he gets a
chance to read the lists.
What would be the next steps for making this happen?
Selecting the right product for the job.
Finding a reliable host for the bug tracking services.
Starting with requirements, at least some of us have a strong desire
for a bug tracking system that can be operated via email as well as
via web interface.
External interfaces would be important too, so that we can seed the
database from the existing bug information, which currently basically
exists in bug reports to xemacs-beta.
If I recall right then Stephen was favoring roundup[1].
Would you personally be interested in getting XEmacs a bug tracker?
Best regards!
Adrian
Kind regards,
Hans
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Footnotes:
[1]
http://roundup.sourceforge.net/
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