Re: (require 'bbdb) mad at me

Thank you for your prompt response. John> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, John> not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, John> because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to John> read other languages for them. John> In XEmacs 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" [Lucid] (i486-pc-linux) of John> Fri Oct 16 1998 on athene.jamux.com configured using John> `configure '--cflags=-m486 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce John> -fomit-frame-pointer' --debug=yes --gung-ho --with-sound=no John> --with-mule=no --use-union-type=yes John> --lockdir=/var/lock/xemacs --prefix=/usr' John> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and John> the precise symptoms of the bug: John> (require 'bbdb) APA> Hello John, APA> it seems APA> Help APA> Send Bug Report... APA> works now :-) although the initial paragraph seems somewhat APA> strange, since it is presented completely out-of-context. APA> I think `report-emacs-bug' should identify itself in the APA> message it creates. I had not used Send Bug Report before and so am unfamiliar with what was expected. I did change the To: address from <xemacs(a)xemacs.org&gt; to <xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org&gt;. APA> Anyway... APA> John, are you (require[ing] 'bbdb) in order to use it within APA> XEmacs? APA> Your mail does not specify the bbdb-version (mine, e.g., is APA> "2.00.02") you are using. Sorry, everything was the latest, bbdb-1.06-pkg.tar.gz, tm-1.15-pkg.tar.gz and installed when building XEmacs. Send Bug Report seems not use MIME although tm was alive and well in the XEmacs that sent the message. APA> Assuming 2.x, the right thing to do in .emacs or APA> .../lisp/site-start.el is something like this: APA> (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message 'sc 'sendmail 'w3) Both bbdb.info and my .../xemacs-packages/lisp/bbdb/INSTALL give (require 'bbdb) * (bbdb-initialize) * and when I tried (bbdb-initialize) alone it failed with the same Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth' with or without listing the supported programs[1]. APA> You'll have to adjust the argument-list to include packages APA> you want insinuated by BBDB. APA> Make sure to comment all bbdb-related autoloads you may have APA> in .emacs or .../lisp/site-start.el from times past. Was done. Perhaps it was not evident from the stuff in the bug report that (require 'bbdb) was executed from a scratch buffer in an XEmacs started with --vanilla. After "Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth'" that XEmacs was crippled (responded to Send Bug Report and other mail commands with "Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth'"). I wrote the backtrace to a file and imported it into a Send Bug Report buffer in another XEmacs and cut and pasted the lossage. I cannot get a functional XEmacs when bbdb is initialized from my .emacs[2], I get an otherwise working XEmacs without references to bbdb in .emacs. APA> Then you're ready to M-x customize-group RET bbdb RET and APA> save your customizations. Hmm... All that left me with is (custom-set-variables) (custom-set-faces) in a new ~/.emacs after starting with -vanilla. APA> HTH, Well, you induced me to wade through a lot of customize hokus pokus. That was educational. :-) However, I failed to dope out how to enter something like the following into Bbdb Auto Notes Alist what with all the protect you from yourself stuff -------------- cut here ---->8 ---< head (setq bbdb-auto-notes-alist (list (list "Organization" (list ".*" 'company 0)))) (add-to-list 'bbdb-auto-notes-alist (list "x-face" (list (concat "[ \t\n]*\\([^ \t\n]*\\)" "\\([ \t\n]+\\([^ \t\n]+\\)\\)?" "\\([ \t\n]+\\([^ \t\n]+\\)\\)?" "\\([ \t\n]+\\([^ \t\n]+\\)\\)?" ) 'face "\\1\\3\\5\\7"))) (add-to-list 'bbdb-auto-notes-alist (list "newsgroups" (list ".*" 'newsgroups 0))) (add-to-list 'bbdb-auto-notes-alist (list "Sender" (list "yfes-l" 'list 0))) (add-to-list 'bbdb-auto-notes-alist (list "X-Mailing-List" (list "<\\(.*\\)＠" 'list 1))) [[ ... ]] ---- 8<------- cut here ----------> tail Thank you for your suggestions but I am no closer to having bbdb working. Perhaps I'm missing a lot, but I don't see what's hindering it if it isn't related to the failures to load stuff that gives the "Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth'" error. Footnotes: [1] I dunno if it is pertinent but it seems that of the 19 .el files (apart from _pkg.el) in the bbdb directory only the 4 _without_ `(require 'bbdb)' byte compile. I also noticed complaints about tm-bbdb until I re-bite compiled it. I think the complaints were to the effect that it had been compiled for xemacs-20. [2] Actually I have been using 'xemacs -vanilla -l ~/.emacs.new' while I continue to run an old reliable XEmacs with only old fashioned customization and from before packages. jam