Re: XEmacs 21.0b46, Packages

Hrvoje> A so-called "SUMO" tarball containing (almost) all the Hrvoje> packages has been planned. The specifics have not yet Hrvoje> been agreed on, but I think the complete tarball will Hrvoje> exist. That would be cool. BAW> > I know next to nothing about how the new package stuff BAW> works, but even > so, it was pretty painless for me get the BAW> packages I wanted installed > and working with XEmacs 21. It BAW> worked very well in my strange > /depot/gnu installation :-) BAW> Kudos to all! sb> Cool! Very! I was quite impressed. sb> Formal uninstallation support is lacking at present. It sb> hasn't been forgotten and there will be some support by sb> release time. One of the Golden Rules of packages is that sb> `leaf' regular packages (like Supercite) may have all their sb> installed files deleted without harm. Individual .el files in sb> single-file packages may be deleted without harm (like sb> lazy-lock.el in the edit-utils package). I would imagine that uninstalling will happen far less often than updating, or even checking for currency. I'd really love to have a tool (either lisp or command-line, but probably the former), that I could run now and then, that would spit out lines like: "you have an out-of-date CC Mode package, please upgrade". I don't even mind doing all the ftp's myself! sb> There's a naming convention to allow Mule packages to coexist sb> with non-Mule XEmacs builds. Put your non-Mule packages in sb> `xemacs-packages' and your Mule packages in `mule-packages'. sb> Any packages in a `mule-packages' hierarchy are left untouched sb> in a non-Mule XEmacs. Thanks for the info on this. Hopefully there'll be a nice document on the Web site that is "brain-dump-of-hrvoje-and-steve.html" :-) BTW, I wonder if Eric Raymond's Trove project might not help in managing the lisp packages. I don't follow Trove development, but if Eric's involved it must be cool. It may be too early to capitalize on the Trove work, but in any event, here's a pointer to Eric's pages: <http://tuxedo.org/~esr/trove/> -Barry