Re: Backspace direction reversion

[ I moved this exclusively to xemacs-beta. ] Martin> The only other applications that use Delete to delete backwards are Martin> shells and other Emacsen. Shells are special because of historical Martin> tty legacy braindamage - the only editing possible was backward Martin> deletion, using exactly one designated backward erase key (no way to Martin> define two). *Any* application accepting input from stdio works this way. Passwords, vi command lines, ... And, by the way, shells are special in that I use them all the time. Also, I don't see how converts from FSFmacs are unimportant in this picture. I'm not arguing whether one behavior or the other is braind-dead---plenty of XEmacs keybindings are braindead. In that sense, there's a *huge* amount of "legacy braindamage" in XEmacs. As long as there's no decision in principle to update the way XEmacs is operated by a keyboard according to more "modern" usage, I don't think it makes sense to change just this little detail. You're talking about your users, but if we really care about them, we should have a survey at least on xemacs-beta to find out. Martin> Commercial software tends to be Motify, which uses the industry Martin> standard user interface for Backspace and Delete. Well, how many commercial software packages do you use under Unix? The ones I use I would rather not be associated with. Martin> New free software will use libraries like GTK or Qt, which I Martin> have never used, but would be surprised if they didn't also Martin> use the industry standard user interface. Note the word "will." We're not there yet. Martin> P.S. Oh, yeah, xedit on Unix (not VM/CMS) does things Steve's way. Martin> An editor I would rather not be associated with. So, you would rather be associated with Windows and Notepad? :-) -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla